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Post by aldarron on Jan 12, 2018 9:40:44 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2018 11:00:56 GMT -6
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Post by bravewolf on Jan 12, 2018 17:01:16 GMT -6
Good stuff, Boggs. Written like a historical archaeologist ;-D
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Post by Zenopus on Jan 12, 2018 19:21:14 GMT -6
Nice find. I would've read your blog post earlier in the day if you'd provided a little more context here.
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Post by foxroe on Jan 12, 2018 19:21:17 GMT -6
The cleaning lady ate my campaign! I know exactly how they felt. I came home from college one weekend to find that my mother had sold my Holmes set (with all my stuff in it) in a yard sale for 25 cents... Edit: and that was in Massachusetts as well! Maybe we can get some Arkham archaeologists to dig these up. 
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Post by geoffrey on Jan 12, 2018 20:18:25 GMT -6
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Post by aldarron on Feb 1, 2018 10:19:58 GMT -6
Part III is up - I discuss how Greg stocked it.
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Post by geoffrey on Feb 1, 2018 10:28:58 GMT -6
This is fascinating stuff. 
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Post by waysoftheearth on Feb 9, 2018 18:21:34 GMT -6
Part III is up - I discuss how Greg stocked it. Could you please turn "Part III is up" into a link for non-internet citizens such as myself?
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Post by geoffrey on Feb 9, 2018 19:42:27 GMT -6
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Post by waysoftheearth on Feb 9, 2018 21:29:52 GMT -6
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Post by grodog on Feb 11, 2018 23:09:51 GMT -6
Any thouls discovered in Tonisborg thus far?
Allan.
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Post by aldarron on Feb 14, 2018 12:25:30 GMT -6
Thinks Simon - I figured the first link led to the others but I guess I should have just made it simple.  Any thouls discovered in Tonisborg thus far? Allan. Thouls? No, those came about from a misprint of Toads in 5th (IIRC) print. Svenson was using 1st print, (or, unlikely but conceivably a late draft very close to it).
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Post by grodog on Feb 14, 2018 16:40:15 GMT -6
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Post by rossik on Feb 27, 2018 16:06:21 GMT -6
awesome post, thanks!
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Post by aldarron on Feb 28, 2018 12:27:34 GMT -6
Thanks for the link Allen. Having read the thread twice I can't see any reason to think its not a misprint - as far as I can see the contrary is simply an assertion made by Alex, but I guess I should comment on that over there rather than here.  One thing that you might be interested in is the Blackmoor "Wright", which, I suppose, was kinda sorta like a thoul. In the spring of '72 about half(ish) of the Blackmoor players got Banished from Blackmoor dungeon for failing to protect the town during the 2nd coot invasion, going on a dungeon delve instead. (Some not involved in that failure continued to adventure in the dungeon, but that's another story.) So Arneson created "Loch Gloomin" and sent the banished players there for the summer. The FFC has the stocking lists of the adventure areas, which included a monster called a "wright". Looking at the point costs, it becomes apparent that the wright was a merger of wight and wraith. For whatever reason Arneson apparently combined the features of these two undead into one, while nevertheless keeping two different types of this combo creature, the 15 point "wright" (wight strength in 1st ed CM) and the 40 point "wright" (wraith strength in 1st ed CM). No wrights are in Tonisborg of course.
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Post by asaki on Sept 2, 2018 14:30:38 GMT -6
I don't suppose we will see the rest of this dungeon, will we?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 9:51:29 GMT -6
O.K. some un-official release info for you:
Greg Svenson has agreed to release the rights for publication of Tonisborg Dungeon to Secrets of Blackmoor. Daniel Boggs and I are working on a manuscript with Greg that will cover the background and history, as well as a lot of information about playing with an old dungeon such as Greg's and how to upgrade it and personalize it, so that you can run it as your own dungeon with confidence.
A good deal of this information is designed for new players, but old hands may find some new tricks in there. We are also publishing it with Dan's retro clone rules: Champions of Zed. This will make it a self contained game and game system for those who are interested in old school play methods.
Having played with the original maps I can say that they are a bit confusing because the dungeon is very extensive and has so many vertical shafts and stairs between levels. The first level has one stairway down to the 4th level that my players discovered and unwittingly decided to go to Danger Land. Thus we are also producing new maps based on the old, both will be included, that are more clearly annotated.
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Post by geoffrey on Sept 4, 2018 6:29:46 GMT -6
I look forward to it! 
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Post by asaki on Sept 4, 2018 19:32:50 GMT -6
Having played with the original maps I can say that they are a bit confusing because the dungeon is very extensive and has so many vertical shafts and stairs between levels. Can't be any worse than Castle Ravenloft >_< I accidentally led my players down the wrong stairwell, and they wound up with quite a few goodies they probably shouldn't have.
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Post by rossik on Sept 5, 2018 7:53:09 GMT -6
Do we have a list of "lost dungeons"? I mean, those from people that time of discovery and development
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Post by scottenkainen on Sept 5, 2018 9:12:27 GMT -6
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Post by geoffrey on Sept 5, 2018 11:26:58 GMT -6
I hope this is released tomorrow. 
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Post by aldarron on Sept 5, 2018 17:59:50 GMT -6
I hope this is released tomorrow.  Prolly this fall or early winter. most of the text is written but there's polishing and layout yet, and exactly how it gets released is also being discussed, but fear not Geoffrey, Tonisborg will live again. And, as it should be, there are other exciting projects in the que.......
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Post by geoffrey on Sept 5, 2018 19:24:16 GMT -6
Since I can't have it tomorrow, I can easily content myself with early winter. That's only a few months away! 
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2018 17:27:35 GMT -6
Yeah, What Dan said, and also gathering all the artwork. That's taking a little bit of time as well.
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Post by flailsnail75 on Nov 28, 2018 12:45:10 GMT -6
This is going to be released as a hard back if you back the Blackmoor movie kick starter at the $160 level. Strangely it doesn’t include the DVD copy of the movie but I will be working over the money anyways. Really looking forward to getting this in my hands I love reading these artifacts from the early days.
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Post by aldarron on Dec 24, 2018 6:39:04 GMT -6
I have a new post up about the key to Level 10 link
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Post by asaki on Dec 25, 2018 15:02:08 GMT -6
I'm going to have to wait for the other formats, that hard cover copy is a bit rich for my blood.
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Post by thegreyelf on Jan 2, 2019 13:51:05 GMT -6
I'm going to have to wait for the other formats, that hard cover copy is a bit rich for my blood. Agreed, that's very high for what it is, but then I can totally grok the appeal of limited editions. I've been known to pony up for one here and there myself. For this one I'll just hope we get a non-limited version at a more affordable price point (even if it comes without the included rules).
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