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Post by Haldo Bramwise on Jul 17, 2008 16:44:59 GMT -6
Hey guys.
I was wondering if there is a S&W:WB draft version we could see yet.
I'm itching to start converting my homebrew setting.
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Post by Finarvyn on Jul 17, 2008 18:12:05 GMT -6
I think that the answer is "soon." :-)
My part of the edit is done and Matt is proofing my work and checking for legal issues. Also, we've had some minor "in there or not" discussions about some of the content.
And we're trying to finalize the name. "Swords & Wizardry: WB" doesn't quite flow....
Don't laugh. It's important!
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Post by Haldo Bramwise on Jul 17, 2008 18:40:57 GMT -6
Cool. Thanks for the update.
How about:
S&W: Original Edition
S&W: Classic Edition
Original Fantasy Roleplaying?
Original Adventures
Caves & Creatures
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Post by Haldo Bramwise on Jul 17, 2008 18:56:27 GMT -6
I just checked and it looks like "Original Edition Fantasy" is available.
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Post by mythmere on Jul 17, 2008 20:23:47 GMT -6
I just checked and it looks like "Original Edition Fantasy" is available. The difficulty is that the core rules are also 0e, so "Original" doesn't distinguish the two well enough. The Core rules are also Original Edition... The answer is "fairly soon." I have finished proofing Fin's draft, and I've finished a side-by-side read to make sure we haven't done something wildly divergent, plus I've put James M's edits to the core rules into the drafts. I have to put it all into the computer tomorrow, and then I'll be done. However, the artwork is still in process, and the layout will have to be done. But there's no bottleneck, just regular finishing time. And the name, of course... |
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Post by blackbarn on Jul 18, 2008 0:32:19 GMT -6
I think the name is fine, and describes what the purpose of the rules is. Plus, too much changing is going to get confusing. It's already slightly confusing to have two versions being made at the same time, and people are getting used to the names talked about on the forums.
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Post by coffee on Jul 18, 2008 9:28:19 GMT -6
You know, you can call them S&W: d6 and S&W: d8 for all of me. But the longer we refer to it as the "White Box" edition, the better chance that name has of sticking.
Steve Jackson first used GURPS as a joke. But they didn't come up with a better name and it stuck...
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Post by Finarvyn on Jul 18, 2008 10:33:49 GMT -6
The difficulty is that the core rules are also 0e, so "Original" doesn't distinguish the two well enough. The Core rules are also Original Edition... Actually, the problem is more that the WB is actually the Original edition without the supplements, but S&W has its Original editon with the supplements. So while Matt's Original edition is actually the OD&D enhanced edition, my edition to mimic the OD&D Original edition is a derivative of Matt's core rules and is not itself original. Does that help?  Either way, Matt is right -- both rules sets are based off of some variant of the "Original D&D" and so it's not really fair or accrurate to call one "original" and the other not. I'm tempted to leave it " WB Edition" and never quite explain why there's not a box... ;D |
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Post by Zulgyan on Jul 18, 2008 10:46:12 GMT -6
Swords & Wizardry: Essentials
like?
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Post by Haldo Bramwise on Jul 18, 2008 10:53:06 GMT -6
I was just worried that S&W:GH or S&W:WB refer to the game of origin too much. But hey, Matt's the lawyer, not me.  |
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Post by mythmere on Jul 18, 2008 17:35:19 GMT -6
I was just worried that S&W:GH or S&W:WB refer to the game of origin too much. But hey, Matt's the lawyer, not me. It's allowable to refer to the game of origin, but not to refer to the trademark name. Thus, "Whitebox" is fine. GH will not be named, because it's a trademark. The Core Edition will be called ... The Core Edition. |
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Post by Haldo Bramwise on Jul 18, 2008 20:13:57 GMT -6
Okay, Finarvyn seemed to indicate it needed a new name - I was just trying to help.
Whitebox will work for me.
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Post by Finarvyn on Jul 18, 2008 21:05:53 GMT -6
Okay, Finarvyn seemed to indicate it needed a new name - I was just trying to help. Whitebox will work for me. I appreciate the suggestions because we're not 100% sure of anything quite yet. We've tossed around a few names and may have ended up where we started.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2008 6:23:10 GMT -6
Can you work faster?
Oh, and I vote for WHITE BOX as well.
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Post by Haldo Bramwise on Jul 20, 2008 12:08:22 GMT -6
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Post by Haldo Bramwise on Jul 28, 2008 19:14:40 GMT -6
Bump! ;D
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Post by Random on Jul 29, 2008 8:50:32 GMT -6
Indeed, how is this project coming along?
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Post by mythmere on Jul 29, 2008 10:07:11 GMT -6
Indeed, how is this project coming along? Fin's out of town, so there's a delay on the WB version until he gets back. The core book is in layout, probably getting finished about August 10. Knockspell's cover is in progress at the artist, and articles are coming in to James M. I'm working on Eldritch Wizardry Book 2, and I'm done with the Intro module, Tomb of the Iron God. The module's waiting for me to get some art inspiration so I can do a couple of illustrations. Eldritch Wizardry will also need me to come up with some cover art. So, there's a lot going on, but nothing's emerged from production yet. There will probably be a sudden release of a lot of stuff at some point in the near future. EDIT: I'm not entirely sure where the cover for WB stands, although I know Pete Mullen has talked to Fin about it. |
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Post by James Maliszewski on Jul 29, 2008 10:52:03 GMT -6
Knockspell's cover is in progress at the artist, and articles are coming in to James M. On that note, if anyone would like to submit an article to Knockspell, feel free to email or PM me. I could use a couple more articles to round out the premier issue. |
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Post by Haldo Bramwise on Jul 29, 2008 14:46:42 GMT -6
Knockspell's cover is in progress at the artist, and articles are coming in to James M. On that note, if anyone would like to submit an article to Knockspell, feel free to email or PM me. I could use a couple more articles to round out the premier issue. Oh yeah. I'll get busy. |
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Post by redpriest on Jul 29, 2008 15:04:01 GMT -6
Knockspell's cover is in progress at the artist, and articles are coming in to James M. On that note, if anyone would like to submit an article to Knockspell, feel free to email or PM me. I could use a couple more articles to round out the premier issue. What's the timeline? (Other than "yesterday" or "the sooner the better") |
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Post by James Maliszewski on Jul 29, 2008 16:47:43 GMT -6
What's the timeline? (Other than "yesterday" or "the sooner the better") There's a fair degree of flexibility in the timeline. Basically, Knockspell will be done when it's done and I'm not intending to rush it out just for the sake of doing so. That said, "the sooner the better" is indeed what I'd say. If you're thinking of submitting something, send me a PM or an email and we can work out a mutually agreeable date. My goal is quality material with which to kick off the magazine rather than speed. Of course, both is even better EDIT: Changed "sack" to "sake"; it makes more sense that way. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2008 12:09:31 GMT -6
How about Swords & Wizardry WB
and Swords & Wizardry WB + Supp
I think White Box and White Box + Supplements is great.
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Post by blackbarn on Jul 31, 2008 17:54:05 GMT -6
How about Swords & Wizardry WB and Swords & Wizardry WB + Supp I think White Box and White Box + Supplements is great. Makes sense. |
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Post by mythmere on Jul 31, 2008 19:21:50 GMT -6
As to the name, I think we've settled on S&W Core Rules and S&W Whitebox Version.
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Post by Finarvyn on Aug 3, 2008 19:40:27 GMT -6
Fin's out of town, so there's a delay on the WB version until he gets back. EDIT: I'm not entirely sure where the cover for WB stands, although I know Pete Mullen has talked to Fin about it. I'm back. I think my part is essentially done, unless Matt finds some legal reasons why things need to be changed somewhere. Pete says he has some sample sketches for me to look at but hasn't sent them yet. I'm really hoping to wrap this up in a hurry. |
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Post by Random on Aug 3, 2008 20:05:25 GMT -6
That is great news, Fin.
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Post by Haldo Bramwise on Aug 3, 2008 20:32:15 GMT -6
Fin's out of town, so there's a delay on the WB version until he gets back. EDIT: I'm not entirely sure where the cover for WB stands, although I know Pete Mullen has talked to Fin about it. I'm back. I think my part is essentially done, unless Matt finds some legal reasons why things need to be changed somewhere. Pete says he has some sample sketches for me to look at but hasn't sent them yet. I'm really hoping to wrap this up in a hurry. Hot Dog! I'm really looking forward to S&W:WB! |
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Post by blackbarn on Aug 3, 2008 23:38:14 GMT -6
Good news! I'll admit, I'm pretty excited to see how this turns out.
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Post by Haldo Bramwise on Aug 7, 2008 17:23:48 GMT -6
 It's hard to wait! |
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