edsan
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Post by edsan on Jun 10, 2008 4:35:35 GMT -6
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Post by kesher on Jun 10, 2008 20:50:00 GMT -6
Oh good lord. I love/hate that film, first viewed when I was 13, on a borrowed laserdisc player...
Psychotic horseman and giant, flying heads spewing guns and moralistic pronouncements about genitalia.
And Sean Connery with MotorHead facial hair slurring out "Schtay behind my auwra..."
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busman
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Post by busman on Jun 10, 2008 21:39:39 GMT -6
I just hate/hate it. I've never been able to sit through it, tried twice I think. Just terrible.
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Post by kesher on Jun 10, 2008 21:51:14 GMT -6
Oh yes, Chris. You're definitely right. It's horrible. It's just unremovably lodged in my psyche...
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Post by hackman on Jun 11, 2008 7:28:31 GMT -6
I have to disagree with the consensus so far on this one. I remember watching it as a kid and being absolutely fascinated. I think it's so bizzare as to be a great film. I mean the themes of a slide to destruction that would be industrial culture is just rich as a theme. Anyways, I like your write up edsan.
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Post by kesher on Jun 11, 2008 9:44:35 GMT -6
I dunno, hackman. I mean, it's probably pointless to argue preference, and I agree that there are moments of greatness in it (it's certainly visually arresting), but the second half, in my opinion, draaaaaags along through about three possible climaxes. The theme, though, is definitely perfect for a game like Mutant Future
And edsan, the conversion of the Exterminators to the game is brilliant. Well done!
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Post by greentongue on Jun 11, 2008 11:13:12 GMT -6
Even if you don't like Zardoz, it has certainly left its mark. That in itself is a measure of "greatness".
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Thorulfr
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Post by Thorulfr on Jun 11, 2008 11:24:36 GMT -6
My introduction to the movie was at a game convention almost 27 years ago, and I was blown away by it. Not the least was the music, and I thought that while the film misses on a lot of levels, when it hits it hits HARD (even before I was a father, the poignancy of the closing timelapse/montage is simultaneously heartbreaking and inspiring.)
I've seen a number of his movies since (Excaliber, Emerald Forest, Deliverance), and I have noticed that quite frequently his movies are like that: they drag a bit, they miss...but ohhhh, when everything falls into place, they are just soooo good. I think it is because he is willing to take risks, to push the envelope, when many directors or producers would be content to just play it safe.
As for the writeup - The take on the Exterminators is good, but are you envisioning them as antagonists or as PCs? In the latter case, it would take a really clever plotline to keep it from degenerating into "pillage, rape, kill; repeat as necessary" - a plot just as intriguing and convoluted as the movie's, but different than the movie's, since you can bet many/most of your players will have seen it.
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Post by hackman on Jun 11, 2008 14:30:21 GMT -6
I agree that Zardoz hits and misses. The write up is great. Another interesting thing about that movie is that I'd say a lot of it is rooted in the Kenneth Anger film school of film. Anger wanted to be a real life magician and that's where a lot of the inspiration for all the risks come from. As well as the phallic stuff, the mind stuff and all of the hallucinatory effects etc. It's like a tame acid trip wheres Anger was full bore in that regard.
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edsan
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Post by edsan on Jun 12, 2008 4:38:10 GMT -6
As for the writeup - The take on the Exterminators is good, but are you envisioning them as antagonists or as PCs? I'm envisioning the Exterminators as antagonists of course. Although a temporary alliance with them against a group of evil mutants would not be beyond the realms of possibility. The major difference from the movie is that their creation was not the fruit of just one Eternal's efforts but of the entire group as a whole. And instead of ennui-filled immortal hippies they would be a bunch of real bastards. I'm glad so many people seem to have enjoyed it. It was quite simple to adapt. Now, a real challenge would be to write a complete small campaign where a band of PCs, after coming into contact with Zed and his gang, infiltrate the Vortex and try to blow up the Tabernacle. |
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Post by Rhuvein on Jul 26, 2008 20:53:23 GMT -6
And Sean Connery with MotorHead facial hair slurring out "Schtay behind my auwra..." Haha, he wasn't slurring he was . . .BURRING - you know Scottish burr!! SOB, I love Sean Connery. Heh, and this movie - completely bizarre and mind bending. 'Course, they only way to watch it is to be wasted on some good weed!! LOL. Did I just say that on a public forum?? Darn right I did. Great cult film and yeah, I see some possible material for Mutant Future. I was just thinking about MF and how there is so much good book/movie material to be utilized for sure. Start with Zardoz!! ;D |
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Post by Melan on Aug 4, 2008 1:20:14 GMT -6
I have just seen the movie yesterday, and it is certainly... arresting.  Visuals, themes and settings are just right for Mutant Future. Whether the Eternals are better off as the movie's flaccid (heh) beautiful people types or thoroughly corrupted schemers who just like to keep population down is up to personal preference - I could see either, or both (after all, there were supposed to be multiple vortices; some might have fallen, some become corrupted in some ways, others evolving towards strange ideals...) Definitely a lot of inspiration. |
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Post by danproctor on Aug 31, 2008 20:24:37 GMT -6
So I got a chance to watch this movie the other night...wow. It is both awesome and crappy, in a funky way. Definitely a must see for the post apoc fan. I have to confess that I was a bit sloshed when I watched it, so the frequent naked boobies helped a bit.
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Post by greyharp on Sept 1, 2008 0:26:38 GMT -6
the frequent naked boobies helped a bit. I saw it in the 70s when I was young and it made a big impression on me, no doubt that was the reason why. I got hold of a copy several months back and re-watched it, only to be disappointed that it wasn't as fantastic as I had remembered. Still, as you say Dan, the boobs helped.  |
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yesmar
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Post by yesmar on Dec 22, 2008 21:55:36 GMT -6
Zardoz, while possibly self-indulgent on the part of John Boorman, is still an amazing film that holds up well to the test of time. It's filled with interesting bits that could be plundered for a science-fantasy campaign or setting.
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Visuals, themes and settings are just right for Mutant Future. Whether the Eternals are better off as the movie's flaccid (heh) beautiful people types or thoroughly corrupted schemers who just like to keep population down is up to personal preference - I could see either, or both (after all, there were supposed to be multiple vortices; some might have fallen, some become corrupted in some ways, others evolving towards strange ideals...)
