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Post by barrataria on Aug 13, 2013 14:23:29 GMT -6
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Post by geoffrey on Aug 13, 2013 18:57:26 GMT -6
I read the original script many years ago and wasn't impressed. That said, the script of Star Wars as filmed isn't much fun to read, either. All the other elements of the film (and especially John Williams's score) make the film come alive. I expect that the comic book treatment will inject some life into the original script.
I simply won't pay $4 for a comic book. (When I started buying Marvel comic books in 1974, they had a cover price of 20 cents. Put that in an inflation calculator and you get 95 cents.) When my local library gets the graphic novel in the second half of 2014, I'll check it out and read it.
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Post by Falconer on Aug 13, 2013 20:28:14 GMT -6
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Post by Finarvyn on Nov 9, 2013 15:26:59 GMT -6
Apparently the first couple of issues of this are out.
I haven't seen them (and plan on waiting for the whole set to be published in a single graphic novel) but a friend at my local game store said he's been buying them and likes them quite a bit.
Just thought I'd mention it...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2013 17:36:36 GMT -6
I am not a comic book reader, but I bought the first two issues because I was interested to see where they were going with it. I think they're weaving a pretty good story and, just for the record I'm not an original script fetishist. Interestingly enough, the last comic book line I purchased was also an alternate timeline of sorts: Star Trek the Early Years (IIRC) detailing the voyages of the Enterprise under Captain Pike (before Kirk became Captain).
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Post by Vile Traveller on Nov 9, 2013 20:20:42 GMT -6
I will probably check this out at some stage, just for fun. Battlestar Galactica changed me completely as far as re- (or pre-) imaginings are concerned. In fact, I hope the next re-imagining will make Han a woman. Okay, I know that won't happen, it's Disney.
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Post by Finarvyn on Nov 9, 2013 21:18:20 GMT -6
I hope the next re-imagining will make Han a woman. Okay, I know that won't happen, it's Disney. That certainly would make the "Han and Leia kiss" scenes interesting.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2013 21:28:49 GMT -6
In fact, I hope the next re-imagining will make Han a woman. ... with a bodacious set of cha-chas! |
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Post by ritt on Nov 16, 2013 15:20:13 GMT -6
I simply won't pay $4 for a comic book. I wish they would just go back to printing them on cheap newsprint. When I was a kid comics were cheap and everywhere (Gas stations, grocery stores, etc.) and were popular culture like TV and movies. Now they're just this hermetic niche for upper-middle class white hobbyists in cities big enough to have a comics store. It's a genuine cultural loss. |
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Post by geoffrey on Nov 16, 2013 20:22:55 GMT -6
I simply won't pay $4 for a comic book. I wish they would just go back to printing them on cheap newsprint. When I was a kid comics were cheap and everywhere (Gas stations, grocery stores, etc.) and were popular culture like TV and movies. Now they're just this hermetic niche for upper-middle class white hobbyists in cities big enough to have a comics store. It's a genuine cultural loss. When you're right, you're right. What's happened to comic books is sad. As a young child, I used to be able to find an interesting Marvel comic just about anywhere I turned for 25 cents. The same was true for DC and for "funnies" such as Richie Rich, Archie, Disney, etc. |
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Post by Finarvyn on Nov 17, 2013 8:52:56 GMT -6
Same thing happened with baseball cards. Once you could buy packs of a dozen or so cards (plus gum) for almost nothing. Now you get something like four cards for several bucks, and they don't include the gum because they are afraid to get gum stains on any of the cards.
Very sad.
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Post by geoffrey on Nov 17, 2013 13:21:01 GMT -6
Same thing happened with baseball cards. Once you could buy packs of a dozen or so cards (plus gum) for almost nothing. Now you get something like four cards for several bucks, and they don't include the gum because they are afraid to get gum stains on any of the cards. Very sad. I have fond memories of going to convenience stores with my cousins and buying comic books, sports cards (with pink gum sticks therein!), candy, drinks, etc. for pocket change. It was all pure fun. The very idea of "collecting" these things (in the sense of keeping them pristine) would have been laughable to us. We read the comics, threw them in a stack of comics in which they got kind of ratty, etc. We chewed the gum, read the cards, organized the cards into teams, pinned the cards on the wall, traded the cards, etc. Small hint to collectors: If you are buying something because it is collectible, it's not. The reason that Action Comics #1 is so valuable today is precisely because people back in the 1930s didn't collect them. They bought them for a dime and read them and then tossed them aside, resulting in few copies remaining until today. But when a new "collectible" comic is bought today and never read and put in a hermetically sealed bag (i. e., doing what thousands of other collectors are doing), your comic will never be worth more than its cover price. I recently read a story of a comic collector who was reduced to tears when his "valuable" comic collection basically sold for its cover price. He thought he would have enough to pay for a college education or for a substantial down-payment on a house. Instead he had nothing. Look in your trash can and pull something out of there. Put it in a hermetically sealed bag. Something out of your trash can has a greater chance of becoming valuable than something marketed as collectible. Why? Because in decades to come that piece of trash might be desired by collectors, and you will have one of the only 42 copies left out of the gazillions that were made and then thrown away. |
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Post by blackbarn on Nov 26, 2013 0:37:19 GMT -6
I've looked at the first three issues of this series. What can I say? It's the early script story, such as it was, only a comic book adaptation. My main complaint is that some of the art/design choices are a little too much like what came later in the real films, and some designs are even close to the prequels. If you've read the script you'll probably agree it had a different feel, and conjured different images. Some of the comic version's are too on-the-nose and familiar to what we know from the movies. But the art is technically pretty good.
And I agree about comic book paper. I'd rather have cheap comics than high grade collector's paper. Maybe they could print on two different types of paper, one for comic collectors, one for kids who just want to read it and toss it in a pile.
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Post by The Semi-Retired Gamer on Nov 30, 2013 9:37:36 GMT -6
Those pictures at that link make me want to read this NOW!
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Post by Finarvyn on Feb 24, 2014 10:38:51 GMT -6
The concept is intriguing to me, but I don't hang out in comic shops much so I still haven't seen this.
Any more news? Has the series concluded? Was it any good? Will it be in trade paperback soon?
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Post by blackbarn on Mar 7, 2014 13:01:16 GMT -6
The concept is intriguing to me, but I don't hang out in comic shops much so I still haven't seen this. Any more news? Has the series concluded? Was it any good? Will it be in trade paperback soon? Issue 5 out of 8 is on sale now. Personally, while I love the idea, I found the execution to be wanting. The art is good, but there are a lot of little odd details or flaws I've noticed (you could say it's personal preference, I guess), having studied the early drafts and design work for the film extensively. Most people would probably not notice or say it's nit-picking, but it is frustrating to me. I don't think they did their homework well enough, and also think they are too beholden to the films (including prequels) in their design work. I'll give an example to help illustrate, so you can judge for yourself. The comic heroes are flying around in the early version Falcon, which looks like the Rebel blockade runner from the films. This is because that model was designed as the hero ship (which then was changed late in production to be the Falcon we all know instead, due to concerns it was too "Space 1999"-ish). The thing is, the hammerhead cockpit was added to the model only after they borrowed the original cone-shaped one to put on the film-used Millennium Falcon. My problem: The ship in the comic has the hammerhead cockpit. At the time of the screenplay this comic is adapting, it wouldn't have been. Annoying? For me it is.  |
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Post by Finarvyn on Jul 29, 2014 5:50:44 GMT -6
Well, I finally found the whole graphic novel published in one volume.  I'm maybe a third to a half way through. A few comments. (1) I like the fact that it's not 100% the same as Star Wars. I'd hate to have waited all this time, only to get the exact same thing as before. (2) The artwork is interesting. Sometimes it looks so realistic that it's almost like they snuck a photograph into the comic, but other times the artwork seems like they took a few shortcuts. Often in the same page. A little odd. (3) I like how some things like C3P0 have the same look as the early concept art. While most of the time I don't like the concept art as much as the final Star Wars product, it's nice that they took the time to use the old concept stuff as a pattern. (4) Am I the only one to have a hard time following the storyline? I can't always tell the characters apart well visually and they seem to hop from place to place a little randomly. Sometimes I just don't quite know what is going on. (5) It is a little odd when characters are so different from what I expected. Han Solo clearly has changed. Some characters have names "switched" (such as Luke Skywalker being more of an Obi-wan style mentor) and that's a litte odd sometimes. I guess I ought to track down the script and read it first. Maybe the graphic novel will make a little more sense.... |
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Post by Finarvyn on Jul 29, 2014 5:55:09 GMT -6
I guess I ought to track down the script and read it first. Maybe the graphic novel will make a little more sense.... By the way, does anyone know exactly which version of the script was used to write the "The Star Wars" graphic novel? I've seen a couple different versions out there on the interwebs and would rather read the same one that inspired the graphic novel because if I read a different one I doubt that it will ease my confusion any. |
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Post by geoffrey on Jul 29, 2014 18:41:44 GMT -6
I guess I ought to track down the script and read it first. Maybe the graphic novel will make a little more sense.... By the way, does anyone know exactly which version of the script was used to write the "The Star Wars" graphic novel? I've seen a couple different versions out there on the interwebs and would rather read the same one that inspired the graphic novel because if I read a different one I doubt that it will ease my confusion any. I haven't read the graphic novel, but I've read about it. I'm pretty sure that it is based on the 1st or "rough" draft that Lucas finished in May 1974. Click: starwarz.com/starkiller/the-star-wars-rough-draft/I had forgotten all about the graphic novel. I'm going to have to see if my library has it. |
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Post by blackbarn on Sept 10, 2014 22:18:14 GMT -6
Finarvyn, I don't think reading the script will help much with the confusion. I had the same problem in reading the script. Lucas as a writer is kind of confusing, and focuses on exposition and unnecessary details to the detriment of smooth storytelling. I think we all saw that with the prequels. The original Star Wars script(s) are similarly full of strange and almost random things going on or being discussed without a strong flowing plotline throughout, and with (too?)many characters. Kind of a mess, like many episodes of a serial crammed into one film, which is ok since it was a draft not a finished screenplay. I do think if he hadn't gotten a lot of advice and help with the original film, we'd see it resembled the odd flow and pacing of the prequels quite a bit; the old script certainly does. Unfortunately for the comics, they are adapting this rough draft mess, unchanged. There is a reason it got streamlined and altered into the film we know! It's probably more interesting in a historical sense than as a story on it's own, so while the comic is interesting, and I'm glad they made it, I'd rather go to the source and re-read the script, honestly. I like the imagery better when I'm the one imagining it. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2014 5:14:07 GMT -6
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Post by geoffrey on Sept 17, 2014 19:15:30 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2014 13:45:19 GMT -6
Yeah, I am kind of eager to read it, but at the same time, I feel a tad bit old for most SW stuff, these days.
Read the "Dawn of the Jedi" comic books a while back, but was not terribly impressed. So, I won't hold my breath on this one.
(And THAT one could have been such a treat of a good story!)
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