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Post by Finarvyn on Oct 31, 2012 17:24:32 GMT -6
Just curious if anyone has either personal experience or can recall any quotes where Gary mentions a like or dislike for Clark Ashton Smith.
As others have noted, CAS's omission from Appendix N seems rather strange, given that Gary read Howard and Lovecraft and other contemporaries of Smith.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2012 18:52:54 GMT -6
ISTR a comment over on his DragonsFoot or ENWorld threads when someone asked him about CAS.
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Post by Falconer on Oct 31, 2012 21:44:23 GMT -6
Gary was never a fan of CAS. I find it hard to imagine Gary just never happened to read CAS (considering all the stuff Gary DID read), so maybe Gary just honestly disliked CAS or even found CAS distasteful.
That said, there were plenty other authors Gary read and enjoyed who did not make it into Appendix N — E.R. Eddison springs to mind — simply because he didn’t consider them particularly influential on D&D.
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Post by grodog on Nov 1, 2012 21:38:03 GMT -6
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Post by Ghul on Nov 26, 2012 13:17:59 GMT -6
When I was developing Castle Zagyg for Gary, I was unabashed in my efforts to include CAS elements to the whole, including Tsathoggua-like gargoyles in the ruins in front of the castle; also, in "The Storerooms" a certain sorcerer who sequestered himself behind a series of illusions, and if the illusions were overcome (I'm looking at you, Ro(a)bilar!"), the sorcerer would place a geas on the intruders, directing them to confront the hill giant of the Storerooms (which could be an insurmountable task for low level PCs); and lastly (to my recollection), in the basement of the castle proper their was a summoning chamber carved of yellow ivory. Well, these are the CAS elements that immediately spring to mind, and Gary was not opposed to any of these, though I think he may have passed (i.e. post March 2008) before I developed the yellow ivory summoning chamber. Anyway, he may not have been as big a CAS fan as Rob is, but he certainly did not dislike him. Gary was never timid about expressing his opinions with me; if he didn't like CAS, these things would not have made their way into the ms.
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Post by rjkuntz on Nov 27, 2012 1:50:14 GMT -6
CAS is my favorite, you know that Ghul.  I just finished a piece about the integrated Lovecraft/CAS Elder One slant of the Greyhawk Campaign. It's about 3,000 words and also lists all of the material I created for it (about 100 pages and 20 maps) and with some hefty details. This story arc was pervasive 1973-1975. I'll publish it in the near future in tandem with some other pieces making up the whole. Beware Strah-Kut! |
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Post by Ghul on Nov 29, 2012 12:53:51 GMT -6
Sounds fascinating! I've had a lot of fun the past two years combing through my Night Shade hardbacks that collect all of CAS' fiction. There are a lot of stories I'd never read before.
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Post by rjkuntz on Nov 29, 2012 14:43:21 GMT -6
Those are great books, aren't they? I'm currently re-reading, "Planets & Dimensions," his collected essays by Mirage Press. Short matter that works well into the ole writing schedule. |
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I just finished a piece about the integrated Lovecraft/CAS Elder One slant of the Greyhawk Campaign. It's about 3,000 words and also lists all of the material I created for it (about 100 pages and 20 maps) and with some hefty details. This story arc was pervasive 1973-1975. I'll publish it in the near future in tandem with some other pieces making up the whole.