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Post by trebormills on Aug 18, 2012 19:10:30 GMT -6
At Gencon FFG announced a beta of Star wars RPG....anyone seen or bought it?
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Post by Finarvyn on Aug 19, 2012 5:28:12 GMT -6
I don't know much about it at all. I know there is a thread on Dragonsfoot on the beta rules and I think it was being compared to Warhammer Fantasy RPG for some reason. I should go back to re-read the thread... Maybe it wasn't DF. I can't find the thread now.
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Post by barrataria on Aug 19, 2012 7:18:44 GMT -6
I don't know much about it at all. I know there is a thread on Dragonsfoot on the beta rules and I think it was being compared to Warhammer Fantasy RPG for some reason. I should go back to re-read the thread... Maybe it wasn't DF. I can't find the thread now. I don't think it was there, although I was away from the boards for a while. I don't recall any at Rancor's Pit or d6 online either. Maybe rpg.net or enworld? I don't read those much. Edit: was it rpg.net?
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Post by barrataria on Aug 19, 2012 7:28:26 GMT -6
And, from the rpg.net thread.... Yeah, looks interestin-
Oh. Printed beta, for 30 bucks, apparently without pdf. Losing interest.
Also, custom dice. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Finarvyn on Aug 19, 2012 9:52:32 GMT -6
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Post by Falconer on Aug 19, 2012 21:31:16 GMT -6
A friend of mine ordered it and wants to try it out. I’m willing but trepidatious.
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Post by Achán hiNidráne on Aug 20, 2012 9:55:52 GMT -6
Sorry, but I'm of the school of thought that playtesters shouldn't have to pay to iron out a game's bugs. FFG has things as backwards. Sadly, there are Star Wars fans who would buy a pile of George Lucas' excrement if it came signed certificate of authenticity.
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Post by trebormills on Aug 20, 2012 15:40:11 GMT -6
Sadly, there are Star Wars fans who would buy a pile of George Lucas' excrement if it came signed certificate of authenticity. as proven by episodes 1 to 3!! The you tube link for brew city gamers was useful...i think im out.... whfrp/rogue trader is ok but not really my thing. Back to a dogs in the vineyard or heroquest home mod then. PS dont like d20 jedis either
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Post by barrataria on Aug 20, 2012 17:21:51 GMT -6
Sorry, but I'm of the school of thought that playtesters shouldn't have to pay to iron out a game's bugs. FFG has things as backwards. I'm with you, of course, but I will say it's more honest than some companies that seem to sell their beta copies as "first edition" With the "rules upgrade" sold separately!
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Post by perdustin on Sept 5, 2012 9:09:28 GMT -6
I don't like the idea of paying $30 for a beta version but I got a free copy at Gen Con. So far, I have written one post about it on my blog and I intend to write more.
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Post by barrataria on Sept 6, 2012 8:54:59 GMT -6
I don't like the idea of paying $30 for a beta version but I got a free copy at Gen Con. So far, I have written one post about it on my blog and I intend to write more. Got a link, pard?
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Post by perdustin on Sept 6, 2012 12:27:14 GMT -6
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Post by barrataria on Sept 6, 2012 13:43:31 GMT -6
Thanks for the link; yet another blog I'm sorry I've missed for so long. If I may: Let us further say that the character's Intellect is two (average) and Astrogation is three. The larger of the two numbers tells us how many Ability dice to roll and the smaller number tells use how many of these dice are upgraded to Proficiency dice. We start with three Ability dice and two are upgraded. If the Kessel run is 'hard' in terms of difficulty, three Difficulty dice are added to the pool. As of now, the dice pool consists of one Ability die, two Proficiency dice, and three Difficulty dice. Advantages can be represented by adding Boost dice to the pool and complications can be represented by adding Setback dice to the pool. For instance, if our example character was using a ship that had “special modifications,” one or two Boost dice might be added to the pool. Something about this does not appeal to me as much as "see the number on the sheet? That's how many of these six sided dice you roll". Something... elusive.... I'm glad they make dice stickers available, and glad that you took the time to post (and share) the review.
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Post by perdustin on Sept 6, 2012 17:21:23 GMT -6
I forgive you for missing my blog for so long.
I know what you mean about the dice. Sometimes you just want to know how many dice to roll and/or a target number. On the other hand, I'm certain that -- after playing awhile -- determining dice pools becomes second nature and proceeds quickly.
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Post by barrataria on Sept 6, 2012 18:34:55 GMT -6
I know what you mean about the dice. Sometimes you just want to know how many dice to roll and/or a target number. On the other hand, I'm certain that -- after playing awhile -- determining dice pools becomes second nature and proceeds quickly. I suppose... for the past few years I've had to convert new gamers (as opposed to finding existing ones) so I've found d6 to be the easiest to use, by far. I played in a white box game with folks who were experienced non-RPG gamers, and was struck by how long the "which die do I roll for what" problem came up. I think that would be worse with a system with dice organized by the pips on them rather than the number of sides. Maybe my view is skewed from playing mostly with newbs. But I'd think that would be a preeminent concern in making an SWRPG (which I've found a very easy sell in getting new players/games together).
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Post by Falconer on Sept 6, 2012 20:05:30 GMT -6
Do you think Star Wars is an easier sell for new players than fantasy is?
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Post by barrataria on Sept 6, 2012 21:22:18 GMT -6
Do you think Star Wars is an easier sell for new players than fantasy is? I have found the average non-gamer I've managed to talk into gaming is more likely to have an interest (or at least passing knowledge of) SW than in fantasy gaming. Or not have been burned out on/turned off by D&D at some point.
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Post by Finarvyn on Sept 30, 2012 5:28:56 GMT -6
I did buy the FFG one yesterday. They had two copies at my local game store and a guy there is talking about running a game so I thought I'd be proactive and check it out first. I bought a bunch of crappy dice to put stickers on and have prepared 10 of the 14 dice already. They're okay but make a funny sound when they hit the table, due to the fact that I'm not good at putting stickers on dice. Also, my d6's aren't well done since I wound up with dice slighly smaller than the stickers and with rounded edges, so a little tape is going to be in order to hold the corners down. So far the dice just look confusing, but I haven't read the rules yet. I keep yearning for a handful of d6's but that's just me having 1980's flashbacks, I'm sure. Do you think Star Wars is an easier sell for new players than fantasy is? I think it depends upon the person. One of my gamers has two grade-school kids who are just now the right age to learn role-playing. I was going to introduce them through Star Wars, then they saw the Lord of the Rings movies and so I switched gears and am currently running a LotR campaign using modified OD&D. I'll probably shift to a SW campaign when this one runs its course, but most likely an OD&D Star Wars or WEG Star Wars and not the new FFG version.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 12:20:05 GMT -6
Anyone been playing this? I've looked it over and it seems to be full of lots of prequel and EU nonsense like toydarians and "backup" hyperdrives.
They also now have a Beta for their Age of Rebellion game.
The books look fantastic. I'm not so sold on the game, however. It seems that the whole Talent Tree system is totally unnecessary.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2014 19:09:02 GMT -6
I bought the starter boxed set for AGE OF REBELLION and at the same time a copy of the beta rulebook for AGE OF REBELLION. (The guy at the game store was trying to get rid of it, so he sold it to me for cheap. He thinks a hardback is coming out soon and wanted to be done with the beta ones by then. His loss is my gain.)
Could be interesting, but the strange dice make my head spin. I've heard that the dice are easy to use, but at the moment I don't grok 'em at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2014 7:37:26 GMT -6
Could be interesting, but the strange dice make my head spin. I've heard that the dice are easy to use, but at the moment I don't grok 'em at all. I got the dice rolling app which goes through all the work to cancel the various results out. Makes it way easier.
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Post by dukeofchutney on Jun 14, 2014 13:46:02 GMT -6
I've played quite a bit of this (Edge of the Empire). I have a strong preference for Old School games, but when i'm not GMing my group usually plays something built on a popular intellectual property. In my Millennial Generation gamers tend to go for recognized brands or IPs in gaming generally as well as RPGs.
The dice system is good for abstracting out complex simulation and giving you story hooks. Its pretty time consuming if you want to make a lot of skill checks through. I would never run (or wish to play) a dungeon crawl type scenario with lots of combats because it could easily drag.
The crunch is reasonable. In many respects this design is a clever way to appeal to modern gamers. It gives you enough tick boxes on your character sheet with out too much complexity.
As for what happens in game. I've mostly played raids on lean imperial outposts or smuggler asteroids, and done some exploration of a jungle world. Combat is pretty deadly, two or three shots will typically KO you, but not kill you and scoring a similar number of hits on opponents will oft stop them. My GM uses a lot of published adventures which are ok, but very linear and predetermined. Space ship combat, like in all space games (imo) is pretty boring unless you are the pilot.
Personally, id rather we were playing Traveller. I find worlds and stories that are all read written and determined to be less interesting than those where anything can happen.
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Post by blackbarn on Sept 10, 2014 22:46:24 GMT -6
I looked through them, particularly Age of Rebellion version. It seems ok, but man... such a BIG book of rules, focused on just one slice of the universe. Seems like overkill! I am still fine with the West End Games version, and have even written a small 2-page SW RPG myself, so... Nah, I will pass on this new one (it looks shiny though!)
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