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D&D 5E
Apr 1, 2011 10:07:13 GMT -6
Post by Finarvyn on Apr 1, 2011 10:07:13 GMT -6
A nifty little April Fools, for those who missed it: www.dnd5.com/ ;D
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D&D 5E
Apr 1, 2011 10:29:13 GMT -6
Post by thegreyelf on Apr 1, 2011 10:29:13 GMT -6
Heh.
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D&D 5E
Apr 1, 2011 11:36:21 GMT -6
Post by coffee on Apr 1, 2011 11:36:21 GMT -6
Priceless.
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D&D 5E
Apr 1, 2011 12:19:42 GMT -6
Post by Finarvyn on Apr 1, 2011 12:19:42 GMT -6
Love the concept of the collectable deck. Helps one get rid of those pesky low rolls.
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D&D 5E
Apr 2, 2011 9:26:45 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2011 9:26:45 GMT -6
Sad to say that I wouldn't be surprised to have this become an actual game.
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D&D 5E
Apr 19, 2011 7:05:00 GMT -6
Post by rabindranath72 on Apr 19, 2011 7:05:00 GMT -6
Jokes apart, the latest Legends and Lore blogs by Mike Mearls seem to point in this direction. It seems they are getting worried by "edition wars." I suppose they see the results of a very fragmented market. If D&D was made "easier" and "closer in spirit" to the previous editions, they might get the old fan base, the people who fled to Paizo et al., and new players (who are agnostic in this respect.)
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D&D 5E
Apr 19, 2011 11:55:17 GMT -6
Post by Finarvyn on Apr 19, 2011 11:55:17 GMT -6
It seems they are getting worried by "edition wars" Hah! About two decades too late on that one!
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D&D 5E
Apr 19, 2011 12:30:27 GMT -6
Post by foxroe on Apr 19, 2011 12:30:27 GMT -6
Unless the 5ed rules can fit into 110 US Trade-sized pages and they return to the Quentin title font, I'll pass if this bears fruit.
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D&D 5E
Apr 20, 2011 9:44:52 GMT -6
Post by norse on Apr 20, 2011 9:44:52 GMT -6
Oddly enough, I would sort of welcome a move toward a more card based game. It would make the thing a hell of a lot easier to run. Although if they did you can pretty much guarantee a collectible element, which would be bad.
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D&D 5E
Apr 26, 2011 22:20:12 GMT -6
Post by blackbarn on Apr 26, 2011 22:20:12 GMT -6
It's interesting to see WotC so concerned with the fragmentation of the player base now, since it is almost entirely their fault there is a fragmentation. Everything from OD&D through 2nd edition AD&D was not so different that you couldn't use the products together with minimal adjustment or work. 3rd started veering away and requiring more work, now 4th has taken it much further away. And we see Pathfinder picking up a lot of gamers that 4th could have kept if it had not made such a radical departure.
I'm *very* curious to see where 5th edition really goes with the rules. I'm hoping they dial it back and make it more like D&D was for over 30 years, but we'll have to wait and see. I don't really envy Mearls and the rest, since they are looking at some difficult decisions ahead.
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D&D 5E
Apr 27, 2011 20:41:50 GMT -6
Post by foxroe on Apr 27, 2011 20:41:50 GMT -6
I'm hoping that there is no 5th edition. I'm hoping Hasbro gives up on the franchise, and some rich dude amongst us buys the rights to the intellectual property, and turns it back into what it should be... A SIMPLE ROLE-PLAYING GAME with PLENTY OF ROOM FOR HOUSE RULES AND PERSONAL INTERPRETATION.
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D&D 5E
Jun 27, 2011 14:38:51 GMT -6
Post by Harbinger on Jun 27, 2011 14:38:51 GMT -6
I think Mr. Mearls really has his work cut out for him.
The fragmentation of the market has greatly diminished the power of the D&D brand.
I'd be curious to know how many people would come back if they released a new ruleset based on 3.5 instead of 4 (essentially release a pathfinder clone). Sure some people would stay with 4e, some with Pathfinder, but would enough come back into the fold? Or are we now in a 'post-D&D' era where fragmentation is the norm?
Thank god the OSR is all compatible. Though I guess DCC RPG is challenging that.
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D&D 5E
Jun 27, 2011 14:50:05 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2011 14:50:05 GMT -6
I'll play any version of D&D I can find. My preference is for OD&D and OAD&D and I'd play in one of those before any other, but I'll sit at any table where dice are being rolled.
I will say, however, that any new edition would have to be pretty amazing before I would spend a lot of money on it. Mostly because I have all I need to run a game right now.
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D&D 5E
Jun 27, 2011 18:47:30 GMT -6
Post by Finarvyn on Jun 27, 2011 18:47:30 GMT -6
Interesting to note that since Bill Slavicsek left WotC suddenly, there are speculations of a 5th edition starting to filter into the WotC boards more and more. Nothing like a surprise to fuel conspiracy theories!
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D&D 5E
Jun 28, 2011 15:10:16 GMT -6
Post by trebormills on Jun 28, 2011 15:10:16 GMT -6
I know some people love 4th ed but i feel a large number of us prefer Pathfinder or if they are sensible an older edition- my mate loves 2nd ed but im a 1st ed or older sort
A 5th ed so soon would be odd...rumour machine will be set to max
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D&D 5E
Jun 28, 2011 16:29:06 GMT -6
Post by tombowings on Jun 28, 2011 16:29:06 GMT -6
Because the market is smaller, books cost more to produce, and the Wizard's of the Coasts D&D department likely has more full-time employs than TSR ever did. Thus the company must spell a greater number of copies of their book in order to stay afloat.
In my own opinion, the 1-4 man shows in the OSR are actually more stable than the Wizard's of the Coasts D&D department; I don't see them going bankrupt any time soon, but I could see D&D going complete out of print.
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D&D 5E
Jun 28, 2011 20:54:22 GMT -6
Post by Falconer on Jun 28, 2011 20:54:22 GMT -6
Thank god the OSR is all compatible. Though I guess DCC RPG is challenging that. Nothing against DCC, but I doubt it can be considered part of the OSR. Goodman’s website touts it as “modern rules,” “a streamlined version of 3E,” “modern game design principles,” “a modern RPG,” and “a rules engine derived from the 3E d20 system.” By definition the opposite of old school.
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D&D 5E
Jun 28, 2011 21:29:46 GMT -6
Post by Azafuse on Jun 28, 2011 21:29:46 GMT -6
There were rumors about a 5E since January, not just now: the first signs were D&D Miniature's death and a general change in books' schedule.
IMHO we could find that out at GenCon (just remember that there's a D&D movie in post-production too).
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Jun 28, 2011 21:42:38 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2011 21:42:38 GMT -6
(just remember that there's a D&D movie in post-production too). ... and may The Nine have mercy on me; I'm actually looking forward to seeing it! (chuckle)
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D&D 5E
Oct 3, 2011 16:25:45 GMT -6
Post by Azafuse on Oct 3, 2011 16:25:45 GMT -6
According to Sword and Board blog, Margaret Weis posted on Dragonlance Forums a comment regarding Monte Cook's return to WOTC: not just as a Dragon Magazine columnist, but also as a 5E developer. Drunk talking or not?
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D&D 5E
Oct 3, 2011 20:23:54 GMT -6
Post by foxroe on Oct 3, 2011 20:23:54 GMT -6
I'm sure WotC will deny it, but it's as obvious to everyone as horns and giant bat wings on a newborn baby.
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D&D 5E
Oct 3, 2011 20:38:33 GMT -6
Post by jasmith on Oct 3, 2011 20:38:33 GMT -6
That announcement has causes some ruckus, schadenfreude and gnashing of teeth on a few forums, today. Seemed pretty obvious to me, at this point. I'd like to see WotC not fumble the ball on this one, but I don't really see how this is going to have a happy ending. Old Schoolers are happy with their game. Pathfinder players are happy with their game. 4e players... not sure. Some seem happy. Some don't. I would think that working to improve 4e would be their best bet. They're not going to be able to please everyone with a new edition, unless, maybe, they go the modular route, some people have speculated about. But, I already have a base game I can houserule the heck out of and add to as I see fit. Two, in fact: OD&D and S&W. I still don't need WotC and never will. ;D
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D&D 5E
Oct 3, 2011 23:55:08 GMT -6
Post by Azafuse on Oct 3, 2011 23:55:08 GMT -6
Well, I think everybody in the world has had his/her personal D&D (hacked or franken-ized), but despite of that newer versions have always been sold.
Another big obvious thing is IMHO the 40th anniversary, so d**n close (but there's still time for it to be planned properly).
Mearls seems interested both in new gaming (not MMORPG ;D, but Indie) and old gaming, and at GenCon '11 he has already said something concerning old versions (although using murky words).
I hope WOTC will let Weis' words sink in the water, waiting for a real confirm.
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D&D 5E
Oct 4, 2011 5:10:20 GMT -6
Post by rabindranath72 on Oct 4, 2011 5:10:20 GMT -6
Well, if the last 8 months or so, plus the two latest columns by Monte who fires some torpedoes at the core elements of 4e (and some of 3e), are an indication of things to come, I think 5e has the potential to be a huge hit. The modular aspects, skills and treatment of magic items definitely piqued my interest.
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D&D 5E
Oct 4, 2011 8:25:04 GMT -6
Post by tombowings on Oct 4, 2011 8:25:04 GMT -6
Personally, I think I'll stick with AD&D or B/X for all my gaming needs. Maybe once the game comes out and if someone else invites me to play it.
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D&D 5E
Oct 4, 2011 9:00:09 GMT -6
Post by foxroe on Oct 4, 2011 9:00:09 GMT -6
...and at GenCon '11 he has already said something concerning old versions (although using murky words). That's the second time I've heard that. Is there a link to this info somewhere?
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D&D 5E
Oct 4, 2011 13:52:57 GMT -6
Post by Azafuse on Oct 4, 2011 13:52:57 GMT -6
That's the second time I've heard that. Is there a link to this info somewhere? It's mentioned here, with an unclear "Republishing old editions? cant say anything yet, but there are plans".
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D&D 5E
Oct 4, 2011 19:33:27 GMT -6
Post by foxroe on Oct 4, 2011 19:33:27 GMT -6
Cool. Thanks for that.
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D&D 5E
Oct 5, 2011 10:17:04 GMT -6
Post by Falconer on Oct 5, 2011 10:17:04 GMT -6
Well, I think everybody in the world has had his/her personal D&D (hacked or franken-ized), but despite of that newer versions have always been sold. Will that necessarily be true forever? Haven’t Pathfinder and OSRIC changed things at all? Every new edition divides the player base. People don’t automatically “upgrade” like they used to. Already, more people play pre-4e D&D than 4e D&D. Imagine when they are publishing 9e, what a small minority of D&D gamers would play the in-print version as opposed to a previous edition. It just doesn’t seem a sustainable model to me. ICE seems to keep its fans happy by keeping multiple editions of Rolemaster in-print. WotC has such a vast and popular back-catalog, they could easily do rolling reprints of their products. Probably nothing would make sudden, big bucks, but at least it would keep all fans coming to the well.
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D&D 5E
Oct 5, 2011 11:02:38 GMT -6
Post by kesher on Oct 5, 2011 11:02:38 GMT -6
I don't necessarily disagree with this as an anecdote, but have you seen any numbers to support it? Just curious...
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