[S&W Core] hello, houseruled bard & ranger

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hello everybody,

I'm just setting up a campaign using S&W core 4ed and I just want to houserule in a few things. Really I just need a couple of extra classes and races and I'm good to go (maybe some 0 levels spells too).

I've written up class templates for bard and ranger and was hoping to get some feedback on them. Mostly any thoughts on if they feel over or under powered. Any (helpful) comments would be appreciated

Firstly, here's my take on the bard...

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And here is the ranger...

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watches some tumbleweed tumbling past...

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cheese cheese blah blah blah rhubarb rhubarb cheese

[Koren n'Rhys]

Now, now, no need to get impatient!

First off, I'd suggest sharing these over at the S&W forums proper (at Mythmere Games site). You'll likely get more feedback there.

I haven't looked these over in detail, but they seems like good adaptations at first glance. I like your Bard. Based on the one from Strategic Review (?) but simplified a bit. I might up the number of spells if it were me.

Ranger actually seems a bit overpowered to be honest. A lot of abilities in there. The saving throw bonus of +4 seems a bit high. I'd drop alertness and the bow hunter thing.

Hope that doesn't come across as too harsh. It's a good starting point.

Have an exalt for jumping into the fray!