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Balrog
Nov 28, 2007 2:33:16 GMT -6
Post by coffee on Nov 28, 2007 2:33:16 GMT -6
Can anybody please share with me the statistics and description of the Balrog from Volume II, from back when said volume contained such a creature? This would have been (I believe) the first through third printing. (I could be wrong about that).
I have the Eldritch Wizardry version, such as it is, but I'm curious as to how it was originally presented.
Thanks!
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jrients
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Balrog
Nov 28, 2007 7:47:05 GMT -6
Post by jrients on Nov 28, 2007 7:47:05 GMT -6
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Balrog
Nov 28, 2007 10:12:06 GMT -6
Post by coffee on Nov 28, 2007 10:12:06 GMT -6
Thanks! That was fast. I appreciate it.
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Balrog
Nov 28, 2007 16:48:03 GMT -6
Post by doc on Nov 28, 2007 16:48:03 GMT -6
SWEET!
I am tinkering a bit with the original Balrog stats as I plan to use a Balrog enounter to finish up my ODD campaign when the time comes (likely a couple of years from now). I have been in so many campaigns where the final threat to be overcome is The Baddest Dragon in the World; I want to throw a major curve and make them think (if they are not careful) that the Bane of Man they hear so much of is a dragon when in fact it will be a Balrog.
(Insert maniacal laughing here)
Doc
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Balrog
Nov 29, 2007 1:49:01 GMT -6
Post by coffee on Nov 29, 2007 1:49:01 GMT -6
I love it! That's great, Doc. Keep 'em on their toes!
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Balrog
Apr 24, 2008 9:12:42 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2008 9:12:42 GMT -6
Hi, I just came across this topic and the Dragonsfoot link appears to be down.
If anyone has the stats for this, I'd love to see them! It's kind of mind-blowing to think the Spectre is meant to be a Nazgul; I'd really like to see what a Balrog looked like, stat-wise, back in the old, old days.
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jrients
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Balrog
Apr 24, 2008 11:35:35 GMT -6
Post by jrients on Apr 24, 2008 11:35:35 GMT -6
I printed out the page I linked to above. It should still be tucked in my copy of Monsters & Treasures. I'll retype the info later.
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Post by geoffrey on Apr 24, 2008 12:33:14 GMT -6
ALIGNMENT: chaos NUMBER APPEARING: 1-6 ARMOR CLASS: 2 MOVE IN INCHES: 6/15 (ground/flying speed) HIT DICE: 10 % IN LAIR: 25% TYPE OF TREASURE: Type F
BALROGS: Balrogs are highly-intelligent monsters with a magical nature. There is a high probability that spells will not work against them. To determine success of spells use a base of 75% resistance at the 11th level and adjust upwards or downwards in 5% increments, i. e. a 12th level Magic-User would have a 70% chance of resistance. Balrogs cannot be subdued, but they can be enlisted in the service of a strong chaotic character. There is, of course, always the possibility that the Balrog will attempt to assume command himself, for Chaotic creatures will generally obey a Balrog before a human (except for an Evil High Priest who is slightly more influential). Balrogs have those characteristics indicated in CHAINMAIL, but when fighting fantastic opponents they attack in two ways each turn: The normal attack is with a magical sword of +1 value, and if the Balrog immolates (any score of 7 or better on two six-sided dice, check each turn of melee) it also attacks with its whip. If the whip hits the Balrog drags the opponent against its flaming body, doing two, three or four dice of damage (depending on size)! In this manner a Balrog can fight one or two opponents at the same time.
Here is what Chainmail says about balrogs:
BALROGS: A Balrog is a truly terrible opponent. Balrogs cannot be killed by normal missile fire or in normal combat. It inflicts casualties in combat as if it were two Heavy Horse. In addition, the Balrog can immolate any normal figure it touches during its move or melee. They operate equally well in darkness or in light. They can fly 15" per turn, and remain airborne for three turns.
Morale Rating: 50 Point Value: 75
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Balrog
Apr 24, 2008 14:07:12 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2008 14:07:12 GMT -6
Thank you, that's really interesting! It's funny to see a monster's "bad-ass"-ness measured in horsepower.
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Balrog
Apr 24, 2008 14:25:08 GMT -6
Post by kesher on Apr 24, 2008 14:25:08 GMT -6
Horse- killing power, you mean! That's a little frightening... Thanks for posting this!
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sham
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Balrog
Apr 24, 2008 14:38:38 GMT -6
Post by sham on Apr 24, 2008 14:38:38 GMT -6
Thanks Geoffrey. Copied and Pasted and into one of my campaign supplements!
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Balrog
Sept 4, 2011 19:10:26 GMT -6
Post by Zenopus on Sept 4, 2011 19:10:26 GMT -6
If anyone wants a scan of the original Balrog entry from Monsters & Treasure from a woodgrain set, see this Acaeum classifieds ad, fourth scan down: www.acaeum.com/forum/about11819.htmlYou should be able to drag the image to your desktop. Update: The link above is dead now since it was in the Acaeum Classifieds, which are deleted after a period time. However, I had also posted the image here if anyone still wants it: Balrogs in the Blue Book
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Balrog
Dec 10, 2011 7:26:02 GMT -6
Post by kenmeister on Dec 10, 2011 7:26:02 GMT -6
Now I just need the original Fantasy Combat Chart rows and column for the Balrog from early printings of Chainmail.
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Balrog
Dec 10, 2011 11:19:15 GMT -6
Post by Falconer on Dec 10, 2011 11:19:15 GMT -6
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Balrog
Dec 10, 2011 15:19:02 GMT -6
Post by kenmeister on Dec 10, 2011 15:19:02 GMT -6
Thanks! What do you think the "1-" means for Balrog vs. Roc?
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Alex
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Balrog
Dec 12, 2011 8:22:20 GMT -6
Post by Alex on Dec 12, 2011 8:22:20 GMT -6
A fat fingered typist (the - is right next to the 0 on the keyboard). Consider it a 10.
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Balrog
Dec 12, 2011 21:27:53 GMT -6
Post by kenmeister on Dec 12, 2011 21:27:53 GMT -6
Okay thanks!
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