benoist
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Post by benoist on Oct 6, 2009 13:21:51 GMT -6
Hello everyone. I posted not so long ago about the making of my campaign sandbox, and Josh, aka Julian Grimm here on OD&DD, with the Grimmhaus blog, thought it'd be nice to have maps without names so that people can use it for their own campaigns if they choose to. The interest here is that this is a blend of Greyhawk and Yggsburgh into a workable "Dunfalcon" campaign setting (along with other elements like Bard's Gate, Rappan Athuk, Castle Whiterock and others). Here's the map: Here's the link to the map with icons, but without city/landmarks names. And here's the link to the map without icons or city/landmarks names. I know many people out there want to reconcile Yggsburgh and Greyhawk into a whole, so I thought I would share it with you all.
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Post by Ghul on Oct 7, 2009 7:13:48 GMT -6
As noted at K&K Alehouse -- very nice work. I prefer to call Dunfalcon Greyhawk City, though retain the use of "Dunfalcon" as a derogatory term used by men of Yggsburgh.
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palmer
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Post by palmer on Oct 7, 2009 9:42:39 GMT -6
That's very nice! I also like the idea of animosity or rivalry between Greyhawk and neighboring cities as indicated by the use of Dunfalcon as a derogatory term.
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benoist
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Post by benoist on Oct 7, 2009 9:53:20 GMT -6
Thanks for your feedback!
I decided to use Dunfalcon in part to mark the setting as clearly apart from the Official™ Greyhawk setting. That, and when I pointed out my hesitation between the names to my better half, she told me flat out that she preferred 'Dunfalcon'. Maybe it had something to do with my French accent, and the fact that, for me, it's much easier to say 'Dunfalcon' rather than 'Greyhawk' (ahh, these English -H-s...). LOL Probably, now that I think about it.
The idea of using Dunfalcon as a derogatory term is awesome, though, I agree. There must be some strong competition going on between the two cities if you assume they are both free and both seeking profit from the commerce (and adventuring) in the region.
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Post by akrasia on Oct 7, 2009 13:10:35 GMT -6
That's one gorgeous map, Benoist!
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benoist
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Post by benoist on Oct 7, 2009 15:22:58 GMT -6
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Post by Finarvyn on Oct 8, 2009 21:40:53 GMT -6
Very nice map, and your campaign sounds pretty cool. I think that using Dunfalcon as a name does help set it apart from Greyhawk.
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benoist
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Post by benoist on Oct 9, 2009 11:25:32 GMT -6
Very nice map, and your campaign sounds pretty cool. I think that using Dunfalcon as a name does help set it apart from Greyhawk. LOL Yeah. Thing is, when you start saying on message boards, "I'm running a Greyhawk campaign at the roots of gaming", people who know the setting well will instantly come up with all sorts of expectations, like for instance a "canon" treatment of the setting. When I'm talking about the 'roots of gaming', I'm talking in part about the way some DMs, like Dave or EGG, built their own sandbox, picking and choosing amongst available influences what elements would make it there for play. It was more of an organic, creative process where one would just take this or that element of this novel or that movie and just retrofit it in the sandbox. That's the approach I'm taking here. I took the map, retrofited Yggsburgh in there, but ultimately, this is *my* sandbox, not EGG's, not Rob's, not anyone else's (until I run the thing with co-DMs, obviously, if ever). This is part of the logic that made me choose to run with the Free City's name in the East Mark's paradigm, Dunfalcon, instead of the Official™ Greyhawk™ name.
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Post by thegreyelf on Oct 14, 2009 7:19:22 GMT -6
I took a slightly different approach, placing Yggsburgh into the Oerth map, slightly altering the position of Castle Greyhawk in the process. I modified an existing map of Oerth that I found online and posted it to my website. Interestingly, we made almost the exact same decision about where the castle should sit. In my game, Castles Greyhawk and Zagyg are one and the same. The residents of Greyhawk City call the castle "Castle Greyhawk," while the residents of Yggsburgh call it, "Castle Zagyg," and dismiss the other name as arrogance on the part of the far too self-important Greyhawk residents.
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