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Post by sixdemonbag on Mar 4, 2018 12:40:01 GMT -6
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Post by Mr. Darke on Mar 4, 2018 12:53:12 GMT -6
Honestly, I hated trimming the nubs and 'flash' off of them and I never could get the color to hold in the numbers. Other than that I liked them.
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Post by bigjackbrass on Mar 4, 2018 13:02:08 GMT -6
Absolutely my favourites, particularly the 20+ dice which are numbered 1 to 0 and +1 to +0 to make it easy to use them as a d10 or a d20. I've had some Gamescience dice for over thirty years and they still don't show any wear.
Like any plastic they take colour better if you wash them with detergent before using paint, marker or crayon on the numbers.
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Post by delta on Mar 4, 2018 13:48:56 GMT -6
I've sworn by them for a long time now. Statistically tested, they really do have a more uniform probability distribution than other dice. I got a white paint-pen and it magically solves the filling-in task for me. |
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Post by sixdemonbag on Mar 4, 2018 13:59:47 GMT -6
Thanks for all the tips!
Not being being rock-tumbled, these will be my first dice with vestigial limbs, so-to-speak. I'm hoping the nubs wear off over time naturally, but if not, the website has some instructions for removal. We'll see!
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Post by sixdemonbag on Mar 4, 2018 14:01:49 GMT -6
I've sworn by them for a long time now. Statistically tested, they really do have a more uniform probability distribution than other dice. I got a white paint-pen and it magically solves the filling-in task for me. Great link! The increased "fairness" was a big inspiration for purchase. It's nice to read the physics behind it all, thanks. |
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Post by murquhart72 on Mar 6, 2018 17:10:56 GMT -6
I used to have Gamescience dice and thought they were great and kind of "old-school" (at least in an 80's way). Your post inspired me to check out the links and within minutes I ended up ordering 4 sets of "Ugly Starter Dice" (un-inked, I'm not MADE of money) and a lil' green bag to put 'em in  |
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Post by sixdemonbag on Mar 6, 2018 18:45:29 GMT -6
I used to have Gamescience dice and thought they were great and kind of "old-school" (at least in an 80's way). Your post inspired me to check out the links and within minutes I ended up ordering 4 sets of "Ugly Starter Dice" (un-inked, I'm not MADE of money) and a lil' green bag to put 'em in Awesome!! Apparently, USPS isn't the most accurate when it comes to tracking. I haven't received my order yet, but it should be here any day now. When you get yours in, let's compare notes!! The "ugly dice" colors are supposedly random and I'd love to see which colors I missed out on, haha. Also, I LOVE that the starter set comes with three d6's. Old-school indeed!! |
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Post by DungeonDevil on Mar 7, 2018 5:37:16 GMT -6
My stomach churns over the incessant fawning over Zocchi's groundless circus-barker-like showmanship. They have flaws that have to be carefully cut off and numbers that must be filled in by the consumer. Why not just leave them on the sprue completely? Why not just tell people to make their own? (big eye-roll).
As a backgammon player I understand the logic behind the manufacture of precision dice, but I'll be d**ned if I'm forking out 25 to 30 USD for a pair of dice.
Over the years I've been perfectly happy as an RPGer and wargamer with Chessex, Crystal Caste (on occasion), and Koplow.
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Post by sixdemonbag on Mar 7, 2018 10:36:30 GMT -6
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Post by murquhart72 on Mar 7, 2018 15:10:41 GMT -6
I think Gamescience dice are more for collectors or as curiosities than regular play for the most part. Chessex is by far more popular at most gaming tables.
I wrote back to see if I could get a tracking number, but who knows. I ordered on the 5th, I'll try to remember to post here when they arrive and what exactly I got.
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Post by sixdemonbag on Mar 7, 2018 17:41:33 GMT -6
Curiosity is my biggest character flaw! Lol.
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Post by sixdemonbag on Mar 7, 2018 17:56:22 GMT -6
I think Gamescience dice are more for collectors or as curiosities than regular play for the most part. Chessex is by far more popular at most gaming tables. I wrote back to see if I could get a tracking number, but who knows. I ordered on the 5th, I'll try to remember to post here when they arrive and what exactly I got. FYI, my tracking number was in the "Order Shipped # XXX XXX" email. |
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Post by Melan on Mar 8, 2018 3:06:53 GMT -6
I have been using the same two sets of Gamescience dice for twelve years now, and they are excellent. They look good, and due to their distinctive appearance, it is easy to separate them from the generic dross used by the dice peasants.  Furthermore, Col. Zocchi is a legend - sometimes in the same way baron Münchhausen was one - and legends deserve to be supported and cultivated. Sure, there are rational counterarguments, advocated by misers and rationalists. The reason they don't understand Gamescience, however, is in failing to understand that Gamescience, like DnD itself, is magic. To quote Kellri, This is the appeal of Gamescience - it lies beyond simple functionality. (Note, Kellri has been through a medical emergency, and may need some extra help. Consider donating to him.) |
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Post by DungeonDevil on Mar 8, 2018 7:48:54 GMT -6
"I love Gamescience! I'm gonna name my firstborn Zocchihedron!" Enough of the dicewanking and get back to more important things.
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Post by Gene M. on Mar 8, 2018 9:43:29 GMT -6
I can’t speak to the claims about accuracy but I use them. Re-inking now and then doesn’t bother me. I just like the way they feel better than Chessex. I don’t use minis except for big Chainmail battles (and then I just use cheap ones!) so I suppose the excess that would have gone to that went to my dice instead. I get the most use out of my 0-9 twice d20 inked in red and white, which I prefer to a pair of d10s.
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Post by murquhart72 on Mar 9, 2018 20:16:19 GMT -6
Boy I tell you what; If they would just make a set like this available, I'd buy TONS of 'em! But I can never find them in the right colors or with the right inking. Pictured are the originals on the left (of which I have a few sets of, thanks to Noble Knight Games) and what appear to be the Gamescience equivalent on the right:  |
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Post by strangebrew on Mar 9, 2018 20:41:40 GMT -6
Barely related - Gamescience still sells copies of their "Fantasy Gamer's Compendium" which is a compilation of the little OD&D booklets originally published by Little Soldier Games. It's an affordable peek into OD&D amateur press, the original booklets going to Arduin-level prices on eBay.
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Post by sixdemonbag on Mar 9, 2018 22:31:28 GMT -6
Wow, Piper ! Those are gorgeous!! |
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Post by Gene M. on Mar 10, 2018 10:04:43 GMT -6
Barely related - Gamescience still sells copies of their "Fantasy Gamer's Compendium" which is a compilation of the little OD&D booklets originally published by Little Soldier Games. It's an affordable peek into OD&D amateur press, the original booklets going to Arduin-level prices on eBay. I have that book! It's got some fun stuff in it. I haven't used any of it for my game, but it's a good read. |
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Post by foster1941 on Mar 10, 2018 13:28:37 GMT -6
I’ve never owned a set of Gamescience dice. I bought a few sets of old-school crappy dice from Noble Knight Games a few years back mostly for “display” purposes, but in general the dice I actually use are various Chessex and Koplow-type dice that I’ve had for 25+ years.
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Post by murquhart72 on Mar 10, 2018 15:09:28 GMT -6
My stuff just came in! EDIT: I'm thinking now I should've splurged and had them inked. Oh well.    Side note to Piper: the original six-sided were red, the orange in my picture earlier was due to poor lighting. Maybe I'll add pics of those dice another time. |
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Post by sixdemonbag on Mar 10, 2018 15:29:24 GMT -6
Those look great murquhart72 ! I'll try to post pics of mine as soon as I can. At first glance, ours are very similar (inking aside). |
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Post by Gene M. on Mar 10, 2018 15:39:26 GMT -6
My stuff just came in! EDIT: I'm thinking now I should've splurged and had them inked. Oh well. Side note to Piper: the original six-sided were red, the orange in my picture earlier was due to poor lighting. Maybe I'll add pics of those dice another time. You can get the Uchida Decocolor Extra Fine Paint Markers in six colors on amazon. As far as I know it's the same ink they use to mark them. I bought a set to redo mine. |
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Post by waysoftheearth on Mar 10, 2018 16:35:33 GMT -6
Love the pictures I already own more dice that any person should admit to, ranging from several of the original TSR sets and quite a few Koplow and Essex sets, to worrisome quantities of cheaply made "no name" Chinese imports (including a load of blank six-siders to be marked as desired), to metal "dwarf forge" dice, to proper verified casino dice. Funny thing is, I find semi-regular use for most of them, except the casino dice, which are "too good" to actually use. Still, this thread has inspired me to go order some Gamescience dice... Oh yes, I am a dice nerd  |
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Post by sixdemonbag on Mar 10, 2018 16:55:39 GMT -6
I just checked, and GS is sold out of green D8's. I was almost able to make an OD&D set in the original colors. I'll have to keep an eye out. Hopefully Piper didn't get the last one!! |
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Post by sixdemonbag on Mar 10, 2018 17:05:04 GMT -6
Love the pictures I already own more dice that any person should admit to, ranging from several of the original TSR sets and quite a few Koplow and Essex sets, to worrisome quantities of cheaply made "no name" Chinese imports (including a load of blank six-siders to be marked as desired), to metal "dwarf forge" dice, to proper verified casino dice. Funny thing is, I find semi-regular use for most of them, except the casino dice, which are "too good" to actually use. Still, this thread has inspired me to go order some Gamescience dice... Oh yes, I am a dice nerd Same here. I can never have enough 6- and 20-siders, especially!! LOL @ "worrisome quantities". Also, waysoftheearth mentioned casino-grade dice. Y'all have to check out the very first Top-Rated Review on this page of the highest rated Grade AAA dice on Amazon (USA): www.amazon.com/Casino-Matching-Serial-Numbers-Brybelly/dp/B005JEA7UU/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_200_bs_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=YNNXE8BYX6F5HPYK72YEI think us D&D dice nerds have truly begun to take over the world!!!!!!!! EDIT: Link to actual comment: www.amazon.com/review/ROKB1AQ80D75G/ref=cm_cr_srp_d_rdp_perm?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B005JEA7UU |
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Post by Mr. Darke on Mar 10, 2018 20:00:23 GMT -6
Barely related - Gamescience still sells copies of their "Fantasy Gamer's Compendium" which is a compilation of the little OD&D booklets originally published by Little Soldier Games. It's an affordable peek into OD&D amateur press, the original booklets going to Arduin-level prices on eBay. Outside of a historical curiosity, how is this book. I thought about ordering it. And yes I am thinking of ordering a set of uglies for the retro feel. |
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Post by strangebrew on Mar 10, 2018 22:09:31 GMT -6
Barely related - Gamescience still sells copies of their "Fantasy Gamer's Compendium" which is a compilation of the little OD&D booklets originally published by Little Soldier Games. It's an affordable peek into OD&D amateur press, the original booklets going to Arduin-level prices on eBay. Outside of a historical curiosity, how is this book. I thought about ordering it. And yes I am thinking of ordering a set of uglies for the retro feel. My PM to you turned into a big ole review, so I just posted the thing here: odd74.proboards.com/thread/12860/review-fantasy-gamers-compendium-gamescience |
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Post by murquhart72 on Mar 10, 2018 22:36:23 GMT -6
And yes I am thinking of ordering a set of uglies for the retro feel. My advice: One set, pre-inked, just for kicks. The bags aren't that great. |
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Furthermore, Col. Zocchi is a legend - sometimes in the same way baron Münchhausen was one - and legends deserve to be supported and cultivated.
