Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (Trailer)

[Finarvyn]

Saw it Friday and loved it. I think the ending was sad but necessary to the overall plotline and I liked the appearance of some of the ANH characters. Just enough to give series continuity, unlike some of the prequels where they threw characters in at random just because.

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Dec 19, 2016 12:59:56 GMT -6 Finarvyn said:

Saw it Friday and loved it. I think the ending was sad but necessary to the overall plotline and I liked the appearance of some of the ANH characters. Just enough to give series continuity, unlike some of the prequels where they threw characters in at random just because.

The cameos I disliked the most were C3P0/R2 (who should have been on the Tantive IV) and Evazan/Ponda Baba. I also didn't see the need for AT-ATs, especially how easily they were destroyed by hand held weaponry. In general, I didn't like how it portrayed the Rebellion, the Empire, or the Force, and kinda wish the movie had never been made.

I mostly agree with Red Letter Media's take on the movie.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc2kFk5M9x4&t=1286s

[18 Spears]

i thougt the movie was a lot of fun

[Malcadon]

I'm not saying it is bad. But...

The primary saving grace of The Force Awakens was that it was not as bad as the prequels, but that is setting the bar *really* low.

Although, if I had a time-traveling DeLorean, I would go back in time as Lucas is coming-up with the script of The Phantom Menace, so we could address some. . .  revisions.

"MR. LUCAS! We need to talk about. . .  Jar-Jar!"

[18 Spears]

Dec 21, 2016 5:55:00 GMT -6 Malcadon said:

I'm not saying it is bad. But...

r u sure? lol

[Falconer]

Dec 20, 2016 16:42:14 GMT -6 geoffrey said:

I saw it today. My Star Wars rankings:

1. Star Wars
2. The Empire Strikes Back
3. Return of the Jedi
4. Rogue One
5. The Force Awakens
6. Revenge of the Sith
7. Attack of the Clones
8. The Phantom Menace

If you’re going to drill all the way down to the bottom of the heap, at least tell us where The Ewok Adventure and Ewoks: The Battle for Endor rank!

[ritt]

WARNING: Much of this list is heresy.

1) Original cut of Star Wars ('77)
2) Rogue One
3) The Force Awakens
4) Empire Strikes Back (This is a great film, but much of it leaves me oddly cold and I still don't quite see it as the zenith of the series)
5) Tie: The Holiday Special (Just for the for the exquisitely trippy animated sequence, a diamond in a pile of reeking bantha poop)/Revenge of the Sith (A guilty pleasure for how loud and big and violent and stupid it is. No one gives Lucas credit for this, but it's the SW movie most like a Golden Age space-opera pulp.)

After this I like or dislike them all about equally, save for The Phantom Menace, the one genuinely unwatchable stinker in the franchise.

[Falconer]

Here is my ranking:

Star Wars
Empire
Jedi
…
never-ending stream of watch-once-and-forget movies

Of course one should catch all these other films in theaters if possible. On the whole they are all enjoyable enough to watch once. But it is well to drop the expectation of them being great or immortal like the OT. They’re just not ever going to be—or, if one is, I’ll be very pleasantly surprised. Over time the sheer “noise” of there being so many means that they’re all ultimately forgettable. I don’t even think they’re really rankable; IMO, it’s splitting hairs. So, I’m not ragging on those movies; it’s just my only way of making peace with them and allowing myself to like them. Watch once and forget.

Note how closely all the recent films hew to the mythic 1977 Star Wars, the one movie among them all that was truly a breakthrough, a phenomenon. The greatness of Empire is purely in the fact of it being a competent sequel. With zero innovation, the groundwork having already been laid, it focused on telling a great, Star Warsey Star Wars story. For example, it did nothing very different than the Marvel comics or Splinter before it, it just did it better, much better.

That said, I have to admit that the fact that next year we will finally see a fourth movie in “The Adventure of Luke Skywalker” is pretty thrilling! Ohh, I really should keep my expectations humble.

[scottenkainen]

Loved it. It's like the puzzle piece that fits seamlessly between Revenge of the Sith and A New Hope that you didn't know you needed, and now you can't see how the movies were ever complete without it.

[geoffrey]

Dec 21, 2016 15:00:55 GMT -6 Falconer said:

I have to admit that the fact that next year we will finally see a fourth movie in “The Adventure of Luke Skywalker” is pretty thrilling! Ohh, I really should keep my expectations humble.

I am thoroughly unspoiled for Episode 8.

That said, after how Rey went from thinking Luke and the Force were mythical to becoming (without training!) a semi-Jedi, I wouldn't be surprised if in Episode 8 Rey trains Luke rather than vice versa.

Yeah, I'm keeping my expectations humble.

[makofan]

Saw it today, it kicked ass.

[geoffrey]

I saw Rogue One a second time today, exactly a week after my first viewing. I am happy to say that I enjoyed it very much this time around. Rogue One has risen two ranks in my estimation of the Star Wars films. Here is my new ranking:

1. Star Wars
2. Rogue One
3. The Empire Strikes Back
4. Return of the Jedi
5. The Force Awakens
6. Revenge of the Sith
7. Attack of the Clones
8. The Phantom Menace

[ritt]

I've now seen it in both 2-D and 3-D and, weirdly, for reasons I cannot explain, the two CGI characters (No spoilers, those of you who have seen the film know who I'm talking about) look DRAMATICALLY better when seen in 3-D.

[Malcadon]

I have not seen Rogue One yet. I have it scheduled around the first of next month (payday). I cant wait!!

The worst thing about waiting is the longer I wait, the harder it is to avoid spoilers. Star Wars is such a big pop-culture phenomenon, I cant bury my head deep enough within my own rectum to hind form spoilers before my face pops out of my own mouth! Hallelujah! This is going to be a *long* week!

[barrataria]

Dec 20, 2016 10:34:41 GMT -6 @hedgehobbit said:

I also didn't see the need for AT-ATs, especially how easily they were destroyed by hand held weaponry.

Technically they are not AT-ATs, and I suppose the idea is that the AT-AT is an improved model based on the setbacks suffered by the AT-ACT or whatever it is in this battle.

Dec 20, 2016 10:34:41 GMT -6 @hedgehobbit said:

In general, I didn't like how it portrayed the Rebellion, the Empire, or the Force, and kinda wish the movie had never been made.

I actually really liked the Quixotic Jedi character (which is what he was) and wish fervently that Yoda, if he ever went to fisticuffs with someone, would have fought that way instead of with a toothpick lightsaber. I liked the concept that there were these sorts of semi-force users who were set adrift when the Jedi were smashed: in my Ancient SW campaign I use multiple orders of force wielders that end up all congealed into the Jedi (who are basically space Jesuits IMC). If the Force surrounds and binds all things in a near-infinite universe, there should be a lot of styles of force-users.

I found the characters to be flat, other than Donnie Yen. I didn't think the new villain was very villainous; maybe he would have made a better toady than lead villain. And the "Dirty Dozen" type squad didn't get fleshed out enough for me. I would have ditched the opening scene entirely and used that time for more development of the characters that we ended up with, seeing more break out of jail, etc. I'm not sure I cared about the Forest Whitaker subplot either, maybe that was fan service for Clone Wars fans?

As for the film: I liked it. It was objectively unsettling to watch a SW film without the crawl, the score, etc., but once I got over that it became a good sci-fi film. I guess it goes to show that even in Hollywood an unlimited budget, multiple reshoots, and cutting-edge visual and sound effects can still be used to make a decent movie. I'll get a DVD eventually and watch it, and am optimistic about the Han Solo one-off (but already dreading the Boba Fett one-off, if that's really what they're doing).

[ritt]

Chirrut, the "Quixotic Jedi" character, was AWESOME and a great shout-out to the classic WEG RPG (and it really wouldn't surprise me if he was in fact a deliberate homage). A really worthy addition to the SW mythos. Donnie Yen ROCKS.

The planet Jedha was very cool as well...Afghanistan by way of Leigh Brackett.

And speaking of Brackett... a location from her kick-*ss draft of EMPIRE finally makes it to the screen (But no star-goyles or gold cups of bloody meat, alas). That site would make for a very cool "Mega-dungeon" in a SW RPG and is ripe for adventure possibilities.

[EdOWar]

I didn't see any AT-ATs (or whatever they were) being destroyed by hand weapons. In fact, one quite clearly shook off a hit from a man-portable rocket launcher. Looked to me like they were taken out by X-wings and a big-ass door gun on the U-wing.

Man, now I want to go see it again.

[Vile Traveller]

I do believe I shall go to see it again. First time was with my wife, which was great, second time will be with a childhood friend, which will be great in an entirely different way. Of course, in-between we lost Carrie Fisher, so there may well be tears at the end.

[Zulgyan]

Did not like Rogue One, at all. I found the characters not relatable and their names crappy. The uncharistamic actors performance was mediocre at best. I did not find K2SO funny. I hated the CGI Tarkin, Leia and Mon Calamaris. I hate the abuse of CGI in general on film. The story was messy and unfocused. The exhaust port from the Death Star in original SW was never actually a plot hole in my view, so I was very frustating for me to see the canon embrace that sadly popular theory. The Vader scene in the end was just "lightsaber porn": no dramatic development at all during the fight, as in all original SW films. The premise of the movie was excelent, but in my mind the execution quite... mediocre.

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Dec 28, 2016 14:56:17 GMT -6 ritt said:

Chirrut, the "Quixotic Jedi" character, was AWESOME and a great shout-out to the classic WEG RPG (and it really wouldn't surprise me if he was in fact a deliberate homage). A really worthy addition to the SW mythos. Donnie Yen ROCKS.

I never liked WEG's or the EU's take on the force or star wars in general. This movie was little more than the canonization of much of that. For me, the movie was more true to the EU then to the original movies. That's why it seems so much like fan fiction.

Dec 28, 2016 19:49:24 GMT -6 EdOWar said:

Looked to me like they were taken out by X-wings and a big-ass door gun on the U-wing.

That door gun is what I'm talking about. No bigger than an M-60 yet more powerful than the guns mounted on the speeders in ESB.

[Falconer]

Saw Rogue One last night. Thought it was garbage. Just like the rest of the Prequels. Too bad!

[Malcadon]

Wow, I finally got to see Rogue One yesterday!

I liked it. I really liked it!

Yes, it had a good amount of CGI, but that is not an issue to my if they made it work and not draw attention to itself. Thankfully the effects were good, and there where plenty of practical effects in most cases. The film jumps all over the map, but also shows a lot more of the galaxy. Like me, the director really loves "scenery porn" (lots of rich establishing shots), and unlike George, he goes about this without putting in nosy bits that distracts from what the scene conveys (think Mos Eisley in the remastered versions). The only issue I have was the need to list locations as it is really pointless due to establishing shots.

Besides that, I quit liked the characters. It had a good story that sets the events for the first movie. The action scenes were spectacular. It did not feel rehashed like Force Awakens, nor dull and drawn-out like the prequels. And even knowing what will (must) happen by the end of the movie, I still watched with enjoyment as it all unfolded. I really want to see it again!

Spoiler (highlight to see): Although unrelated to the main story or characters, the part I like the most was the hand-gesture Vader made to force-choke a character to put him in his place with that bad@$$ one-liner. I was the only one there who got the meaning. Just like in ESB, he pulled a "Dark Helmet" like the Space P!mp he is.

[18 Spears]

me to! lots of fun