Hello.... I was always interested in this old game because it was designed by a wellknown writer of SF and Fantasy. Reading here what was known of the background of this "not that good" (rpg? / wargame?) but still loved game I did some investigations about it..... Then I saw on this forum... Midgard wargame rpg..... So on my way and I did found that the wargame was called Armageddon in German..... and surprise... is still active and on BGG:
Same links..... Lankhmar.... BARBARIANS OF LANKHMAR
Veröffentlicht am 9. Juli 2014 unter Off Seit kurzem spiele ich wieder D&D 4 und im Zuge dessen ist mein Interesse an Fantasy wieder erwacht. Genauer gesagt die Sword & Sorcery. Und hier haben es mir besonders die Geschichten von Kane und natürlich von Fafhrd & dem Grauen Mausling angetan. Ich hab die verschiedensten Abenteuer von Kane mit Midgard, AD&D und Warhammer umgesetzt.
Weder AD&D II noch Runequest, die beide ein Lankhmar Setting haben, taugen mir von den Regeln her. Vor Urzeiten hab ich mal eine Conversion für RQ 3 gemacht, leider hab ich diese nicht mehr greifbar. Aber nicht so schlimm, RQ in der damaligen Form ist eh zu tödlich für S&S.
Perhaps Lankhmar was an influence on Straßl's writing, but outside of that, no connection seems to exist.
BTW, Straßl's activities in Germany and Austria are one of the reasons why the old Gygax vs Arneson debate is so ludacris: There were fantasy games all over the world; how they were comparable to D&D, is a different matter, but there was certainly a movement in that specific direction.
"Surtr moves from the south - with the scathe of branches: There shines from his sword - the sun of Gods of the Slain."
Ok, sorry, I cannot find (for the moment) where I did read the connection between Lankhmar and Midgard (Armageddon) in my "history" but I am sure I did read it.... I am not a expect here, just a beginner in OD&D, D&D..... I am more a boardgamer but I do like a light OD&D in my games.... Greetings
I did write extensively about Midgard in PatW (Section 4.6), and I did indeed write about Leiber's pre-Lankhmar game (PatW pg98, especially read the footnote) as it was described in Amra v2n12 - Leiber wrote that piece describing his game in 1960, long before Armageddon. I'm not aware that the Armageddon people specifically knew that Amra article, but I also haven't really done any direct comparison to Armageddon to sift for signs of influence.