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Re: D&D 5E « Reply #15 on Jun 28, 2011, 5:29pm »
Because the market is smaller, books cost more to produce, and the Wizard's of the Coasts D&D department likely has more full-time employs than TSR ever did. Thus the company must spell a greater number of copies of their book in order to stay afloat.
In my own opinion, the 1-4 man shows in the OSR are actually more stable than the Wizard's of the Coasts D&D department; I don't see them going bankrupt any time soon, but I could see D&D going complete out of print.
Thank god the OSR is all compatible. Though I guess DCC RPG is challenging that.
Nothing against DCC, but I doubt it can be considered part of the OSR. Goodman’s website touts it as “modern rules,” “a streamlined version of 3E,” “modern game design principles,” “a modern RPG,” and “a rules engine derived from the 3E d20 system.” By definition the opposite of old school.
A man may do both. For not we but those who come after will make the legends of our time. The green earth, say you? That is a mighty matter of legend, though you tread it under the light of day! —J.R.R. Tolkien
According to Sword and Board blog, Margaret Weis posted on Dragonlance Forums a comment regarding Monte Cook's return to WOTC: not just as a Dragon Magazine columnist, but also as a 5E developer.
"Those who swallow the camel of the entire concept, then strain at gnats of a particular monster or situation seem to be be losing much of the basis for playing. However, that sort of thing happens as one becomes familiar with the fanciful and begins to qualify the experience by comparison to reality." - EGG
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Re: D&D 5E « Reply #21 on Oct 3, 2011, 9:38pm »
That announcement has causes some ruckus, schadenfreude and gnashing of teeth on a few forums, today.
Seemed pretty obvious to me, at this point. I'd like to see WotC not fumble the ball on this one, but I don't really see how this is going to have a happy ending. Old Schoolers are happy with their game. Pathfinder players are happy with their game. 4e players... not sure. Some seem happy. Some don't.
I would think that working to improve 4e would be their best bet. They're not going to be able to please everyone with a new edition, unless, maybe, they go the modular route, some people have speculated about.
But, I already have a base game I can houserule the heck out of and add to as I see fit. Two, in fact: OD&D and S&W. I still don't need WotC and never will.
Well, I think everybody in the world has had his/her personal D&D (hacked or franken-ized), but despite of that newer versions have always been sold.
Another big obvious thing is IMHO the 40th anniversary, so d**n close (but there's still time for it to be planned properly).
Mearls seems interested both in new gaming (not MMORPG , but Indie) and old gaming, and at GenCon '11 he has already said something concerning old versions (although using murky words).
I hope WOTC will let Weis' words sink in the water, waiting for a real confirm.
Well, if the last 8 months or so, plus the two latest columns by Monte who fires some torpedoes at the core elements of 4e (and some of 3e), are an indication of things to come, I think 5e has the potential to be a huge hit. The modular aspects, skills and treatment of magic items definitely piqued my interest.
"Those who swallow the camel of the entire concept, then strain at gnats of a particular monster or situation seem to be be losing much of the basis for playing. However, that sort of thing happens as one becomes familiar with the fanciful and begins to qualify the experience by comparison to reality." - EGG
"Those who swallow the camel of the entire concept, then strain at gnats of a particular monster or situation seem to be be losing much of the basis for playing. However, that sort of thing happens as one becomes familiar with the fanciful and begins to qualify the experience by comparison to reality." - EGG
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Well, I think everybody in the world has had his/her personal D&D (hacked or franken-ized), but despite of that newer versions have always been sold.
Will that necessarily be true forever?
Haven’t Pathfinder and OSRIC changed things at all?
Every new edition divides the player base. People don’t automatically “upgrade” like they used to. Already, more people play pre-4e D&D than 4e D&D. Imagine when they are publishing 9e, what a small minority of D&D gamers would play the in-print version as opposed to a previous edition. It just doesn’t seem a sustainable model to me.
ICE seems to keep its fans happy by keeping multiple editions of Rolemaster in-print. WotC has such a vast and popular back-catalog, they could easily do rolling reprints of their products. Probably nothing would make sudden, big bucks, but at least it would keep all fans coming to the well.
A man may do both. For not we but those who come after will make the legends of our time. The green earth, say you? That is a mighty matter of legend, though you tread it under the light of day! —J.R.R. Tolkien