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geoffrey
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« Reply #15 on May 15, 2012, 9:09pm » | |
When Mark Hamill found out during the shooting of Return of the Jedi that Leia was to be Luke's sister, Hamill kidded Lucas about it by saying to him, "Admit it: You made that up on the plane ride over here."
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« Reply #16 on May 23, 2012, 6:22pm » | |
This is an interesting thread.....I don't have as much of a problem with ESB as many of the people here; though I certainly agree that its take on the Empire and Darth and the Emperor were VERY different than from what was portrayed in the novelization of Star Wars.....and maybe from the first Film.
The first film is very....vague...in many way about the greater events in the galaxy; and while somebody points out that Vader acts out of the chain of command with the exception of Tarkin; he also almost kills a Flag-officer of the Empire on the Death Star and only Tarkin stops him; or even seems to be interested in stopping him. This doesn't strike me as the kind of reaction one would get for these actions if he WASN'T in a position of near- untouchable authority in the Empire.
Also....(and this is obviously simply my own Interpretation)...the look in Ben's eyes when he tells Luke about Vader killing his father is one of holding something back....so I'm not as bothered about the "big reveal" of Vader as Luke's father in ESB.
Grant you...the making Leia a twin to Luck in ROTJ is WAY more of a stretch with me!
Some other points....I don't think Splinter of the Mind's Eye is terrible; it's just a little sophmoric....in my opinion. Plus; while many of the ideas in the novel clearly don't make any sense after ESB and ROTJ came out; it doesn't really go against the grain of the original film. Maybe I'm wrong here; but it kind of seems like the author was attempting to write what would be called a "teen" book.....something along the lines of the "Hunger Games" or "Harry Potter"; with its primary audience supposed to be teen age kids. Just my opinion....I may be WAY offf! 
As for the Han and Lando trilogies...in my opinion; they're nothing fantastic; but they are FUN. They all also occur several years before the events of the first Film; so I would think they would certainly count for being a part of "Original Star Wars".
I also really like the Thrawn books; though I think the characterization of many of the Film characters was a bit..."off". However, I think Zahn did a FANTASTIC job of answering much of the "Big Picture" and even "everyday" kind of questions about the Star Wars Galaxy that I had from watching the original films. Also; most of his original characters were all very intersting to me; especially Thrawn and Talon Karrde.
Anyway....just a few random thoughts!
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« Reply #17 on Jul 15, 2012, 10:04am » | |
Vader is "Lord Vader" he's beyond the imperial military structure because he's an imperial lord. Just how much cache this Lordship carries is what the imperial military has trouble dealing with. The Jedi are supposed to be an ancient and mostly forgotten mystcal order of space kinghts not the league of superheroes/U.N. special that had its nose in all the Galaxies business a generation ago.
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« Reply #18 on Jul 15, 2012, 10:36am » | |
Rewatching Star Wars as an adult, I find the Tarkin/Vader relationship is one of my favorite things about the movie. Cushing steals practically every scene he's in! A shame his and Christopher Lee's roles did not overlap in the franchise; Tarkin/Dooku on screen together would have been amazing!
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« Reply #19 on Jul 31, 2012, 8:19am » | |
The only real Star Wars is the original film about kids driving wheeled landspeeders in an agrarian desert backwater settlement. 
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« Reply #20 on Jul 31, 2012, 12:19pm » | |
Jul 15, 2012, 10:36am, mushgnome wrote:| Rewatching Star Wars as an adult, I find the Tarkin/Vader relationship is one of my favorite things about the movie. Cushing steals practically every scene he's in! A shame his and Christopher Lee's roles did not overlap in the franchise; Tarkin/Dooku on screen together would have been amazing! |
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I've often thought Lucas missed a really obvious and cool opportunity by not including a scene (or whole plotline!) with Dooku and Tarkin in the prequels. Maybe both competing for the Emperor's favor and Tarkin winning out through treachery or something. It would have been a nice nod to the actors and their screen history. Even with Cushing dead, the characters could have overlapped... or even the actors if CGI trickery was employed.
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