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Re: Interesting post by George Strayton...
« Reply #30 on May 5, 2011, 6:05am »

An old dwarvish saying says the only biggest thing to happen in 40yrs of gaming could be the introduction of the masculine elf: semething never seen in years of gaming.

Being serious, I am divided just between 5E (hopefully more drifted to SF than it ever was in the past) and LL (as an OGL with royalties).

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« Reply #31 on May 5, 2011, 1:01pm »

I think they'll announce an adventure module (in any system) based on Colossal Cave Adventure, the first computer adventure game.

That would be a "colossal announcemet", sure enough.

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« Reply #32 on May 6, 2011, 8:33am »

I would totally dig that! Colossal Cave is already tightly linked to D&D's history, and that of the Internet.

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« Reply #33 on May 7, 2011, 10:43am »

You know it just hit me that it could be The Wold of Greyhawk for 4E. For some people that really might be THAT important of a event.

After all Gygax Games did disappear with Gary's Castle Greyhawk with not a word said in years now.

4E World of Greyhawk with Castle Greyhawk as the first release would drive up the Epic factor for a lot of people.

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« Reply #34 on May 19, 2011, 9:48am »

Further interestingness!

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« Reply #35 on May 19, 2011, 12:11pm »

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Before a few months ago, I had studied everything I could get my hands on and I thought I knew everything there was to know. But I had no idea. Now I know the truth directly from the source…and it’s mind-blowing, to say the least.

Maybe we'll be getting Dragons in the Basement?

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Re: Interesting post by George Strayton...
« Reply #36 on May 19, 2011, 12:32pm »

May 19, 2011, 12:11pm, ptingler wrote:

Maybe we'll be getting Dragons in the Basement?

You know, my joking answer and others aside ... this is one option that is actually a real possibility. And I must say, it would be rather big.

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Re: Interesting post by George Strayton...
« Reply #37 on May 19, 2011, 12:46pm »

I am curious about this, but I actually think there's simply no way of knowing in advance whether something will be 'as big as D&D' itself. Only hindsight will tell.

I suspect it will be something related to an actual game rather than a film or other meta-gaming product. But we will see...

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Re: Interesting post by George Strayton...
« Reply #38 on May 19, 2011, 1:57pm »

May 19, 2011, 12:32pm, Cameron DuBeers wrote:

May 19, 2011, 12:11pm, ptingler wrote:

Maybe we'll be getting Dragons in the Basement?

You know, my joking answer and others aside ... this is one option that is actually a real possibility. And I must say, it would be rather big.

I remember seeing the chunks of this that they had done back in 2000 at Gen Con. I would love to see this project finally completed!

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« Reply #39 on May 19, 2011, 5:16pm »

Anyone know what the status of Dragons in the Basement is - who has the footage, what's the legal status of using it, etc., etc.?

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« Reply #40 on May 19, 2011, 8:16pm »

Its my understanding that Malia has control of the project.

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Re: Interesting post by George Strayton...
« Reply #41 on May 20, 2011, 1:30pm »

May 19, 2011, 12:11pm, ptingler wrote:

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Maybe we'll be getting Dragons in the Basement?

That's one of those projects that a certain group of gamers would love and the rest wouldn't care about, I suspect. It would be big among the OD&D players but probably not so much for 4E players.

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Re: Interesting post by George Strayton...
« Reply #42 on May 23, 2011, 5:36pm »

May 19, 2011, 9:48am, tavis wrote:

Further interestingness!

I'm probably a broken record by now, but I suspect he's been clued in to the PM/Post-Structuralism of the late 70's and early 80's. And how it relates to D&D as a pattern finding game. The core of ideas has resurfaced and they have bit by bit been making their way through parts of the community and the upper echelon of designers for over a decade now.

If the release has something to do with this, we might see a reality puzzle game, as I call my own, published. At the very least I expect we'll see a statement about it, perhaps one equally pertinent to the computer gaming community - one vastly larger than our own. I've already heard some talk second hand from by nephew's friends and some internet comment sources about how computer games are "not physics engines". It was largely brushed off.

Below is the quote that tipped me off:

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It's the normal reaction for those who were kids in the 80s and not told about pattern recognition and the impossibility of games. At least that's my suspicion of what he's talking about.

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Re: Interesting post by George Strayton...
« Reply #43 on May 24, 2011, 9:26am »

h&w, I'm not sure I get what you're talking about---would you be willing to expand?

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Re: Interesting post by George Strayton...
« Reply #44 on May 24, 2011, 9:39am »

May 23, 2011, 5:36pm, howandwhy99 wrote:

May 19, 2011, 9:48am, tavis wrote:

Further interestingness!

As a social scientist (anthro) I am of course, deeply steeped in theory, including Structuralism and Post Structuralism – which largely ran its course a decade ago – and I have only the vaguest idea what you are referring to. From the comment on computer games I take it you are talking about the idea that thought processes are more than merely additive or oppositional, which sounds like a gross mischaracterization of Structuralism as it arises out of linguistics, although it would not surprise me if a bunch of game designers and programmers completely miscomprehend cognitive theory. But I shouldn’t be indulging in knee jerk reactions without knowing what you are referencing; can you give a key link or two that summarizes the discussions?

Also, what is your reality puzzle game? Link?

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Below is the quote that tipped me off:

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It's the normal reaction for those who were kids in the 80s and not told about pattern recognition and the impossibility of games. At least that's my suspicion of what he's talking about.

Impossibility of games? Never been much impressed by such out of context/reductionist conclusions. Rarely do you see that kind of thing coming out of actual fieldwork. Pattern recognition is culturally situated i.e. Women, Fire and Dangerous Things

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